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I find it so weird that people consider religious pictures/art idolatry.  Just having a picture of something does not mean you worship the picture.  You all have pictures of children in your home and you manage not to tell those to go clean their room.[/quote][/b]

It's actually a lot more simple than that. For Christian non-catholics we go by Exodus 20:4 "you shall not make any graven images".  http://biblehub.com/exodus/20-4.htm.  We walk into a Catholic church, what do we see?  Graven images everywhere.
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[b]Wow!  You should write a letter to the pope, pp.  I bet he never read that part of the Bible.  Also, haven't you seen stained glass windows in protestant churches before?  Aren't those graven images?  Do you also refuse to eat pork and follow all of the other rules in Exodus?  Catholics and Orthodox go by Romans 10:4:

"Christ is the culmination of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes."

The presence of Christian iconography in the early church (as in millennia ago) was hotly debated:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aniconism_in_Christianity[/quote][/b]

No "graven image" is an idol, not something in a stained glass window.  http://www.gotquestions.org/graven-image.html.  Also most Christian religions do not have a dead Christ on the Cross right up front, a huge Mary in a corner, patron Saints of the church in other corners and other life-sized dead people to whom you are to pray for for intervention to God in your prayers (A concept not in the bible).  http://www.gotquestions.org/graven-image.html[/quote]

NP - Catholics don't put a great deal of stock into the Old Testament. Our entire mass week after week is pretty much all about the life and death of Christ. As is the year. As is the sacraments. Stained glass oringinated because very few people could read. Since the mass is Christ centered specifically to communion and His sacrifice that is why most have a crucifix.

As for statues and intercession of Saints - well you either choose to understand or you don't. We worship God in three persons. Father Son Holy spirit. Most needs we are unworthy to speak directly to God. We ask intercession on our behalf via a Saint. They are favored, they are with God. They can ask favor on our behalf. We do not worship them but we do thank them.

This is really simplified but I could right pages and pages about it. I spent 13 years in a pretty hardcore parochial system. ;)[/quote]

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