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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]No -- not lumping them in -- it's easy to distinguish between rapists, supporters of rapists and bystanders.  It's hard to understand why the bystanders would continute to [b]stand by, not to mention actively support[/b] the putative organization, when they could walk away and meet their spiritual needs elsewhere without the sleaze factor[/quote]

And that's your second logical fallacy. You keep asserting the PP you're sparring with is "standing by" or "actively supporting", the rapists. You're lying, because you know that PP doesn't "actively support" the rapists. Bigots like you depersonalize the objects of their bigotry.

Third of your logical fallacies: wouldn't working for change from within be as, or more, effective than "walking away"?

So basically you're relying on sleazy lies to lump PP in with the rapists. Of course, that's what bigots and fascists do.... You're playing straight from the bigot playbook.[/quote]

No logical fallacy:  The original reads "actively support the putative[b] organization[/b]," not the rapists.  All Catholics who are pledging members of the church are supporting the organization, irrespective of their view of rapist priests.[/quote]

You understand that it's a huge organization, right? That there are many good aspects along with the bad.

Your all-or-nothing demands are sleazy and illogical. Would you demand all Muslims abandon their faith because they read the same holy book as ISIS? Would you demand that moderate Republicans leave their party because of Trump (although you sound like a Trump supporter, so maybe that's a bad example). Would you demand Patriots fans abandon the team because of Brady? Of course not, that would be stupid. Blaming moderate Muslims for ISIS and moderate Republicans for Trump is flat-out stupid. Further, you want the moderate Muslims and Republicans to stay in their faith and party, respectively, to work for change.

Stop being deliberately obtuse. [/quote]

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