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Coming to your own conclusions is not faith, it's skepticism. [/quote]

People of faith know what faith is.  If it feels like faith, then it's faith.  They can be skeptical of some things - like the honesty of politicians or car salesmen, but when it comes to their faith, they believe what they want to believe.

People without faith can't understand this.  To them it seems like silliness, lack of intellect or some kind of weird blindspot.  But people of faith understand and are not fazed.  [b]They know that they are just as intelligent and analytical and skeptical as anyone else about matters unrelated to their religious faith.[/b][/quote]

You can call a pumpkin a volkswagen all you want, but you are only fooling yourself and looking stupid in front of others. Religious faith grow stronger by overcoming skepticism, not yielding to it. Don't conflate religious faith with general usage of "faith", which is assumptions made about the world based on observable and empirical evidence, such as honesty of politicians or car salesmen. Religious faith has no basis in evidence.

Why not be equally skeptical about what you believe in terms of the origins of this world and our species? Why must you give up your intelligence and analytical abilities when practicing your religion?[/quote]

NP. Why are you so set on debating with those you see as stupid? It's like a dog with a bone how you can't come to some acceptance that it doesn't align with your thinking.[/quote]

First, I like debating. I like discussing ideas with people who disagree with me. It exercises my mind, and often allow me to see things from new perspectives. Second, there's a notable separation in the mindset of believers, a compartmentalization of rationality where believers surrender their intellect at the start of every religious thought. The post I was replying to above admitted as much, in the section that I've now bolded. So the stupidity is apparent, but not innate; the goal here is to show the person how irrational his belief is, and reduce the numbing effects of religion on those who believe. [/quote]

NP. You like taunting and criticizing, not "debating."

We never see anything from you besides snark and the easiest of glib, unthinking retorts. [b]The sort of retort that a dozen monkeys could type if given time.[/b] Your so-called point about faith is an excellent case in point, thanks for bringing it up. You are apparently confused about the differences between faith and surrendering intellect and "stupidity." Grab yourself a dictionary and learn how these things aren't on some very short continuum where you can just cheaply elide the meanings together; they aren't even on the same plane.

All of which makes you an internet troll. Agree with the point that internet trolls are losers.

(Cue entirely predictable cheap shot that I must be a hypocritical Christian or something. Wrong.)[/quote]

Seriously?  would you call this hyperbole, snark, unthinking cheap shot, projection or something else?[/quote]

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