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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]...Hillary Clinton is the clear frontrunner of the election at this time.  Pretending that's not the case is just an exercise in wishful thinking.[/quote]
Agreed!  But do you agree that there are Democrats who will not vote for her but would likely vote for another nominee? Do you agree that many moderates and independents question her honesty and would therefore likely not vote for her in the general? Do you agree that she comes with a lot of baggage?[/quote]
Sure, I'll agree there are likely some Democrats, some moderates, and some independents out there who dislike her and won't ever vote for her, no matter what sack of corn the Republicans run against her.  I haven't seen anything indicating whether that "some" is a significant number of people.  It's sort of like how there are "some" people who said they'd leave the Unite States rather than live under the oppressive yoke of a Bush presidency (or an Obama presidency, albeit with different complaints).

I'll also agree Clinton comes with some baggage.  I would say though that a lot of that baggage seems most pronounced among hard-right Conservatives who dislike Bill Clinton, disliked the thought in 1992-96 that Hillary might have overhauled the healthcare system, dislike Barack Obama, and dislike the whole idea of a woman as President.  It's hard for me to know how much their views really affect the 2016 election.  I also think a lot of Clinton's supposed baggage is driven by hyperventilating from the media and her detractors.

As far as I can tell, she's smart and she did a fine job as Senator and Secretary of State.  I've read several interviews with Republicans who agree she did a good job in those roles.  Ultimately, I think she'd make a fine President.  FWIW, I think Jeb Bush would make a fine President as well, although I have less confidence in him than I do in Clinton.  IMHO, all of the other current candidates on both the Democrat and Republican side would be poor choices (Walker, Rubio, O'Malley) or unmitigated disasters (all the rest) for President.[/quote]

Thanks for a cogent response without the name calling!

It is early days yet so much could change with regard to the electorate as a whole. Here is an interesting article that attempts to analyze her negatives by different political leanings.

[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/07/26/why-is-hillary-clinton-viewed-so-unfavorably-in-early-primary-states/[/url]

I think her biggest problem is that she is perceived as not being honest and perception can outweigh reality. For my part, I don't believe much of what she says and she comes across as disingenuous. I think she is very intelligent but unlike her husband she comes across as being unable to relate to the average person. I watched her interview a couple of weeks ago on CNN and she came across as totally scripted in her responses. Quite honestly, I have no idea on where she really stands on various issues - what she says may or may not have anything to do with her core beliefs.

I think she was excellent as a senator ...... her record as SoS was mixed. She totally messed up healthcare reform when she was put in charge of it in BC's first term. BTW, I have worked in healthcare on the policy/administrative side for decades and we knew that her approach in trying to pass healthcare legislation would blow up in her face.

When she is not running for office, she comes across as more genuine. My first preference would have been for someone like Elizabeth Warren but that is not going to happen. [/quote]

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