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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Cupcake went on a helicopter ride with Kaitlyn in Ireland.

Reality Steve has said that Bachelorette typically travels to fewer international destinations than Bachelor. But he even appears shocked at US to Ireland and then hanging out in Ireland for an extended period.

These shows always begin with bizarre, odd, humiliating group dates. So the first few episodes of Kaitlyn's season have been on par with past seasons in my opinion.

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Hm, I've been watching since Ben's season and I don't recall that many humiliating dates in prior seasons - I think it was the boxing match (in which head shots were allowed - why!?!) back to back with the cheeky wrestling that made me feel like that was one too many. I recall there being one uber embarrassing one and usually a couple episodes later there's an obstacle course of some sort that allows some candidates who might not otherwise get the spotlight for personality to excel. But no obstacle course this season and instead, plenty of embarrassing and one even dangerous activity.  I don't really blame Kaitlyn for that though, because I don't think she has full say in what the group date activities are.

Is it true that there's less traveling during the Bachelorette seasons? I thought there were a few int'l destinations for Des and for Andi. This is the first time I remember the group just lingering around in one country outside the US. [/quote]

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