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[quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm an immigrant and this whole rewriting of history by the winners is amazing to me. The southern states waned to be independent, just like US wanted to be independent from Britain just a hundred years prior. Americans won, so they are heroes. Southerners lost, so they are traitors, right?

And don't kid yourself - the North did not go to war to free the slaves. Lincoln did not give a flying f&#k about them. In fact, in his inaguration speech he assured the South that they would get to keep their slaves. Lincoln cared about power, and a divided America would not be as powerful, so Lincoln proceeded to burn the South to the ground to get what he wanted. [/quote]

Thank you for this. The north framed the civil war as a free the slaves movement when it was really a loot the south movement as well. The flag is a part of history and it is not all about slaves. There were not that many slaves in the first place. It is a groin issue that is always used to stir people up. [/quote]

This is complete BS by someone who lacks even a basic understanding of history. But, don't trust me about this. Trust the Confederates. Here is what they wrote in 1860 about the causes leading to their secession. It was entirely about slavery:

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_scarsec.asp

The entire argument in that document is that the Federal government and non-slave states were obligated to protect slavery and not only didn't fulfill those obligations, actually acted in a hostile manner toward slavery. Therefore, the slave-owning states considered the union to be absolved because it wasn't obeying the constitution.

Moreover, the North's justification for going to war was; 1) Federal institutions had been militarily attacked; and 2) to preserve the union. It was not a "free the slaves" movement. There were northern slave-owning states and the slaves were not freed in those states until after the war. The Emancipation Proclamation didn't free those slaves, but only slaves in the states that rebelled.

I agree that the North's motivations have been given the rose-colored glasses treatment, but that doesn't justify overlooking the true cause of the South's secession. It was slavery, plain and simple.

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