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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't have a problem with gay folks; but I expect them to respect my right to live as a Christian.

That my friends is real tolerance.[/quote]

As a fellow Christian, I find this offensive. Jesus dined with prostitutes and thieves. Do you really think he'd have a problem with you baking a cake for a gay couple? You REALLY need to read the red words in your Bible and think about how you can live your life in the spirit of Jesus.

I am so incredibly sick and tired of this perception that we are all like op and this pp. We are not. I go to an Episcopal church. Our congregation consists of gay couples and mixed race couples. Nobody even thinks twice about it. we also welcome the homeless man who sometimes joins us. We don't question why he has Nike shoes (newsflash: a REAL Christian probably gave him those shoes as a *gasp* handout!). Oh, and we tell our kids that of course they can pray in school any time they want...SILENTLY! We believe that it's our responsibility to teach others about our faith...but not through laws and politics. We do so by inviting people to our service, or to Vacation Bible School, or any other church function.

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You need to go back and read your scriptures some more.

Jesus told the adulteress to GO AND SIN NO MORE ( John 8:11).   He did not say prostitution, adultery, thieving were OK.   I've been seeing these idiotic posters on the internet (and perhaps they are hanging them in your church) that suggest that Jesus dining with prostitutes is an acceptance of prostitution.   Again, read John 8:11 -- it's really not that obtuse, you'll get it.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church tells us specifically to be kind to gay people.  However, gay sex is a sin.   This is why Pope Francis has been accepting of the idea of celibate gays within the priesthood.

I treat all people with respect including gays, who I generally like and get along with very well.

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Preparing and celebrating a meal with a prostitute might not be the same thing as packing a goodie bag for her to help her next trick go more smoothly.  There are many areas of life where you could make a distinction between "loving the person" yet draw the line at participating in their sinful behavior.  You can help a homeless pedophile with food, clothing and shelter, but you wouldn't make a cake for him to share with the child he was lusting after.  You welcome your drug addicted (child, neighbor, relative) into your home and care for them, but you don't provide their pipe for them.

My parents always welcomed me and my boyfriend into their home, and even sent us all appropriate gifts.  But, they refused to buy us furniture or even help us move into our apartment.  My brother refused to read at my sisters wedding, because he disapproved that she had been living with her boyfriend before they got married.  I thought It was a dick move, but he was following his own moral and religious code.  There are fine lines and nuances in life which make all the difference.  The government should refrain from interfering in those personal judgement calls unless there is a very compelling reason and there is no other way to achieve a given goal......sort of like these RFRAs state.[/quote]

Personal judgment calls, fine, whatever.  But businesses are not people, and unless someone's religious beliefs require them to be a baker, then it's no violation of personal religious freedom to have to refrain from discriminating against gay couples.[/quote]

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