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Sure throw around criticisms. The problem with America is that "some patents" and "those parents" mamby pampby their kids. They raise them, nurture them, feed them, and recognize human beings are not all cut from the same mold.

Thankfully we are not all cut from the same mold. Otherwise we'd all be jerks like you!

Red shirting, 13th and 14th grades are not the problem. The problem is that some people need those societal benefits and they are not available. There are millions of American whose lives would be infinitely improved today if at some point in their lives they had received just one more positive push or one more second chance.

Community Colleges can provide remedial education, a gradual transition into higher education, provide less expensive commuter college for students who need to live at home, vocational training, education for struggle parents who need further education to advance but need to take care of their children.

70% of Americans do not have a four year degree or higher. Many of these people have no marketable skills whatsoever. Many of these individuals will never in their lives ever have stable employment or live above the national poverty level. Then poverty and lack of education becomes a generational issue!!!

Clearly there are millions of American who need the second chance opportunities Community Colleges can provide. [/quote]

My life would have been infinitely improved if I had been born an heiress. That didn't happen, so I did the best with what I got.

At some point, we need to say enough is enough. We provide everyone with a good primary education by the world's standards. We even educate the children here who are not citizens of our country. With the internet, you can educate yourself ad nauseam on any topic you like. People are responsible for their own fates. There are vast possibilities available in this country for people from all backgrounds to become educated. Yes, some roads are harder than others, but absent exigent circumstances, most people are given an adequate opportunity at a pretty good education.

But we cannot guarantee a life wealth and success for everyone. Whether you want to accept it or not, there are only so many brain surgeons needed in the world. Unless you want to change foundation of commerce in our country ( I don't know, maybe you do), then you have to acknowledge that some jobs are more difficult than other and thus hold a higher value. Your problem is that you are equating education with future financial success, and yes while they are related, they are mutually exclusive.
 
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Your speech is great, but we are talking about a community college education.  People are not getting associates degrees and walking into 6 figure jobs.  Most of these people will leave CC with entry level job skills and vocational skills.  What they do with those skills is up to them.  But a $3K a year per student investment to make sure people have the opportunity to obtain these skills IF they want it is a good investment.  If you look at the work and other requrements that go with it, it is not a bad idea.

Seriously, I wish that folks would just step outside of their macro political box and stop with the philosophical musings about bootstrapping and self determination.  We need real life solutions to some of these issues.  The income gap in this country is getting worse and will only lead to MORE folks needing "entitlements" unless we do something to help people be more self sufficient.  Unless someone else proposes a better idea, count me in.   [/quote]

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