Reply to h1n1 shot reaction

Forum Index » Health and Medicine

Reply to "h1n1 shot reaction - hives"

Subject:

Emoticons





More smilies

Text Color: Font: Close Marks

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I wonder whether it's the virus, not the shot.  My DS, who has never had hives, had the H1N1 virus in late October - home from school for a full week, high fever, etc.  One week after that he started developing hives on his extremeties, usually made worse by hot water (bath or shower).  Benadryl helps temporarily, but they come back.  There were no changes in soap, detergent, cleaners, etc.  I'm wondering whether it's an odd aftereffect of having H1N1 flu.[/quote]

Ya know, I think there might be something to this.  I have had 3 friends whose kids have had hives in the past month or so. [b] None have had the vaccine.[/b]  I am wondering if it's just some virus that is causing them (like any other virus they get) and/or the H1N1 virus itself can cause hives in some people.  Perhaps the "novelty" of the virus and our bodies react like it's an allergy (i.e., histimine response) bc it's so "novel"?  I dunno, but I DO think it's notable that oddly enough, I have heard of these hive cases and it made me think of this thread.[/quote]

Did they receive the seasonal flu vaccine by any chance, or are they completely flu "vaccine-free?"

I broke out into hives twice in my life, and both times these breakouts lasted MONTHS.  With both cases, the doctors ruled out everything, gave me antihistamines (I have no allergies.),  and told me they were stress-related.

*****  Below is some information on this nasty condition (http://www.drgreene.com/21_822.html):

Over the last few weeks, I've received a "rash" of hives questions from across the United States. What might this cluster mean?

Hives are an outward sign of a whole-body hypersensitivity reaction. About 20% of people will experience hives at some point in their lives. Wheals or welts come and go on the skin or mucous membranes, and may itch intensely. Each typically has a whitish, raised plaque of skin surrounded by a reddish halo. The welts may be tiny or large, and may be all over the body or confined to one area. The individual welts often disappear quickly, and are usually gone within 48 hours, although new ones may continue to appear for quite some time.

Hives occur when the body's capillaries and tiny veins get leaky. Fluid escaping from some of these blood vessels gets trapped in parts of the skin and lining membranes of the body, causing the localized swelling in the hives. This leakiness can be caused by classic allergic reactions in which histamine triggers an inflammatory response. It can also be caused by a number of other regulatory systems in the body in response to different types of triggers.

The most common allergic triggers are drugs (especially antibiotics), foods (especially fish, shellfish, nuts, peanuts, eggs, and food additives), infections (which we'll discuss below), insect bites or stings, inhalants (animal danders, pollens, and molds), and contact allergens (plant substances, skin creams, cat scratches, moth scales, or animal saliva). In college I had a pet tarantula for a while, and some of my friends got hives from petting her hairy abdomen :-)

There are also a number of distinct physical causes of hives (known as urticaria in doctor-speak):

* Dermatographia -- Hives that appear where the skin is firmly stroked. (Named because you can write on someone's skin by raising welts where your finger traced). This occurs in about 5% of people (and many more if you repeatedly stroke hard enough).
    * Pressure urticaria -- Hives that appear under tight fitting clothing or jewelry (unlike dermatographia, which occurs in seconds, this can appear many hours later, obscuring the cause.
    * Cholinergic urticaria -- Hives that occur in response to heat, exercise, or emotional stress. This usually doesn't begin before adolescence.
    * Aquagenic urticaria -- Hives that are triggered by contact with sweat or with water. In these people, exercise itself is not a trigger, and they can drink water without a problem.
    * Solar urticaria -- A rare disorder in which sun exposure results in hives. Sunscreen can help!
    * Cold urticaria -- Hives that are triggered by exposure to cold water or air. This would be a good excuse to avoid swimming in cold pools (something my kids love for me to do).

I mentioned earlier that infections can trigger hives. We know that parasites can be responsible (including giardia and pinworms, which are common in daycare settings). We also know that bacterial infections, most notably Strep, can be the culprit. Viruses of many types can trigger hives as well.

Often -- over 70 percent of the time -- no specific cause is found when children have hives. They were hypersensitive to something, but no one discovers what, and the hives go away. Recent thinking is that most of these unidentified cases may be from viruses, making them the most common cause of hives. This is particularly likely when there is a cluster of cases (although molds, animals, foods, parasites, etc. could also be responsible for clusters).

Hives are usually treated with an antihistamine, such as Benadryl or a prescription medication called Atarax. If drowsiness is a problem, one of the newer non-sedating antihistamines may be a better choice. Any of the antihistamines might also be paired with an H2 Blocker (such as cimetidine or ranitidine) to increase its effect. Stronger treatments are available, but are usually unnecessary. If there are other allergic symptoms, such as wheezing or tightening of the throat, then a shot of epinephrine may be needed.

Those who develop hives associated with breathing problems should always seek medical attention immediately. In these cases, the child may be referred by their pediatrician to an allergist for further testing.

Usually the whole thing resolves fairly quickly. If the hives keep coming and going for six weeks, we call the condition chronic urticaria. This is often not serious, but can be a sign of an underlying disease process. These children should have a thorough physical and lab work, to be sure. The involvement of an allergist may be useful in these cases.

It sounds like the situation at your daughter's daycare, and across the United States right now, is probably caused by one or more of the viruses that thrive during cold and flu season. If the hives last longer than about 2 weeks in any of your daughter's friends, I would look for other possible causes at the daycare. In the meantime, Benadryl and a little TLC should get her through.

Hives can be quite uncomfortable. I remember getting hives after being stung by a jellyfish, and I couldn't sleep without Benadryl for several nights. I also discovered that distraction can sometimes help with the itching. This is one situation where videos and kid cassettes might be a real boon. And perhaps an extra hug, or two.

[/quote]

Options

	Disable HTML in this message
	Disable BB Code in this message
	Disable smilies in this message

Review message

Search Recent Topics Hottest Topics