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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]4not the same Atheist Troll I am the original "troll," btw. Get it straight. There IS no evidence supporting that Jesus was real. Again, if his miracles were so fascinating, news would have spread and many others would have written down accounts. 4 men do not history make . . . especially if they were "followers" with accounts not corroborated by others outside of their brotherhood. Furthermore, the accounts of his resurrection are spurious at best, as they were documented years and years later. Now, you do have Paul of Tarsus (10 C.E. to 63), who claimed to have seen Jesus in a [b]vision [/b]. . . a contemporary nonetheless So this may be something for the Christians to bite into! [/quote] My, you sure are a busy little bee. Would that you know more about this issue. If you're interested in learning about this subject, - Paul of Tarsus was not a "contemporary follower" of Jesus. Instead he was employed in persecuting Christians and converted on the road to Damascus some time after Jesus' death. (Note, BTW, that Paul was well-versed in the details of Jesus' death and resurrection just a few years after these events, which means news of these events was circulating widely right after Jesus' death and wasn't, as you might be tempted to think, added on by Nicaea or some latter day cabal.) - You write about "4 men" and presumably you're referring to the four gospels. These were written after Jesus' death, which you allude to, but it's pretty clear you don't know how this works. Based on content and literary similarities between three of these gospels, t[quote]here's a popular theory about an earlier "Q" gospel that must have been more contemporaneous to Jesus,[/quote] which provided the basis for these three gospels, but which has been lost. FWIW, many of us find the incredible growth of Christianity, in the face of Roman persecution, to be evidence that verbal and lost written accounts must have been circulating before and contemporaneously with the four gospels.[/quote] I didn't say he was a follower. I said he was a contemporary - as in alive during that time. different meaning, wordsmith And the council decided which books to use in order to solidify a Christian framework revolving around ONE God. So there were missing chapters, which you call the earlier "Q" gospel. So until these books are found, we're left with the four gospels. I hardly think that four men are proof that Jesus existed.[/quote] Whatever[/quote]
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