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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For the Catholics who can't countenance the church because it does not bless gay marriages, your view is a bit parochial.

Remember it was not so long ago here that the idea of gay marriage seemed ludicrous.  But you all expect that now that perhaps a majority of people (not really sure if it's that much) in the US embrace gay marriage the Church should follow suit--pronto.  If it doesn't, it clearly hates gays.

I recently mentioned to a French business friend about a colleague and his husband, who have had a surrogate baby.  He was more than surprised.  It seems that in France, hardly a hotbed of social conservatism, the idea of gay marriage is strongly opposed by the majority of people.

The Catholic church should embrace something that troubles the people of Francet?  As William F. Buckley once noted the French are not religious, but they are Catholic.

When the AIDS crisis was at its height in Africa, several African bishops approached the Vatican to bless polygamous marriages because it would help limit men going to prostitutes and spreading AIDS to their wives.  I really wonder what the reaction of US liberal Catholics would have been to the Vatican blessing polygamous marriages.

This is a universal church that puts a premium on keeping its universality.  Thus, while it doesn't move as slowly as its most conservative members, it will never move as fast as its most liberal members demand.  The Church takes its own good time with change to avoid divisiveness.

If you want to be in a church that is purely American and reflects only American mores, then the Catholic Church is not for you.  But if you want to be part of a religion that transcends national boundaries and crosses continents, you may wish to consider it.[/quote]

This last paragraph is why I stay Catholic. For one hour each week I get to escape American culture and join the world community.[/quote]

Sounds very high minded, but "world community"  hardly describes the feeling of many catholic churches -- unless it's a world community not handling child molestation very well or facing up to the fact that a majority of its ever-diminishing clergy is gay.   No, I'm not suggesting a connection between molestation and homosexuality, I'm suggesting two areas in which the Church is not facing up to reality. Why it isn't attracting  straight men (celibacy, anyone?) and how it continues to deny its treatment of its children (e.g. puffing itself up as "transcending national boundaries," instead of showing humility.)[/quote]

http://bishop-accountability.org/priestdb/PriestDBbylastName-A.html

Database of Publicly Accused Priests in the United States[/quote]

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