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I get that while discussing the subject of trinity (& divinity), I explained the Bible has been significantly altered and now contains "add ons." Now you wish to try to show the Quran is also unreliable and provide this hadith as proof of its unreliability. But this has already been answered here: 
http://www.muslimdebate.org/polemics/71-why-did-uthman-burn-all-quranic-manuscripts

Muslims believe the Quran is 100% the word of God. To ensure that it was never altered or changed from the language it was revealed in, hundreds of thousands of people have been memorizing it in it's Arabic language. Muslims who can't even speak Arabic have memorized the Quran in it's Arabic form! In fact, I have several cousins who have memorized the entire  Quran in Arabic even though they don't speak Arabic!

Here's an explanation of that hadith:

"What happened was that Muslims were having differences in how they recited the Quran, in this case, it was the people of Sham (Syria), and the people of Iraq. In fact, even today, if one were to listen to the Arabic dialect of a Syrian, and that of an Iraqi, one would notice differences between the two.

So one of the companions noticed this and became worried by it, specifically in regards to their differences in recitation concerning the Quran, and how one side would regard their recitation as superior to the other. So he went to Uthman and informed him of what he had seen, and had asked Uthman to do something about the issue, lest Muslims fall into the same disputes the Jews and Christians did with their own book.

Uthman came up with a very good idea, to get rid of such differences, he would issue an official standardized Quran to be used and distributed to all Muslims. [b]The official standardized Quran that Uthman gathered, were from the original Quranic manuscripts itself[/b]. During the lifetime of Abu Bakr, the first Caliph of Islam, he commissioned for the entire Quran to be collected and made into an official manuscript.."

The bold face part is critical. It says the official standardized Quran that Uthman gathered WERE FROM ORIGINAL QURANIC MANUSCRIPTS. So they were not altered, not added to, nothing was removed from it. IT WAS FROM THE ORIGINAL.

So you see, the Quran has never been altered.[/quote]
I get that you believe that, and that this is the Muslim position. Some people may interpret the events differently. That's why I posted two positions on the subject.

Just as an aside, just because something hasn't been altered (if that's indeed in the case), it doesn't mean it's necessarily true.  [/quote]

Alterations means something was rejected. What was rejected? The oneness of God concept was rejected. And what and who replaced it? Man replaced it with an opposite and contradictory concept. If man replaces Jesus' original word, how can it greater truth and validity?

Bottom line is true Christianity is very similar to true Islam. Islam has been misinterpreted by those who commit evil on earth and the Bible has been altered too. But fundamentally if we look at both in pure forms, they preach the same message. [/quote]

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