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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Different PP here from the one you're addressing. So anything that corrects your half-truths is "vile filth"? I agree that it's wrong to call Mohammed a pedophile, but almost everybody, including Muslim historians, agree he married a 9-year-old. I do think "rape" is an appropriate word for what happens to non-Muslim female prisoners of war. Calling people names won't change any of this. And who is "a few of us" who are doing the half-educating, unless it's you, maybe 1 other Muslim who's posted maybe twice, and a bunch of people who are doing some real educating by correcting your half-truths.

Sorry to be blunt, but you're wearing out everybody's patience.[/quote]

You or whoever that pp was had the gall to repeatedly call a man who is beloved to millions a pedophile. Islam is the second largest religion in the world. How can the second most populous faith in the world and also the fastest growing religion in the world have a following of people who abide by the teachings of a man if he was truly a pdophile?

And if Muhammad was a pedophile what was Mary then, since Jesus was born out of wedlock? Why doesn't anyone justify this?

When you repeat the accusations and completely disregard the exolanations offered in good faith, you show yourself to have ill will. So then this is no longer a sober intellectual discussion but an attempt to vilify an entire religion. [/quote]

For the record, and since you keep insinuating Mary was some kind of slut... The gospels record:
1. Immaculate conception,
2. Joseph did marry her, after having some reservations and his own visit from an angel. So whatever you think of the circumstances and timing of Jesus' conception, he was not "born out of wedlock" as you keep insisting.

And wow, you just don't get it, do you? I never called the prophet a pedophile, but after watching you dodge and avoid difficult facts that other posters had to point out for you, it's hard to agree that you offered explanations "in good faith" as you claim.[/quote]

You want people to assume the out of wedlock birth was an immaculate conception based on gospel? But who other than Christians believe in the word of the gospel? Your "proof" is your OWN book though. And it requires me to assume the premise is true. The gospel is true perhaps to you but not to me or everyone else. So your reasoning is ill conceived. Try again.

I think the word " pedophile " was used in this thread, if not by you, then clearly by others.

There has been ample information provided by Muslima to explain Islamic inheritance, testimony, and divorce. I do not rely on Sharia though as Sharia is man made law. I rely on the Quran.  Muslima might not have explained everything but she did a fairly decent job. Her "flowery" descriptions rubbed you the wrong way, huh? It sounds like you simply hated that she spoke devoutly about her faith.

Everything was explained to you. So in essence a Muslim woman under a true Islamic State is not required to support herself. She may but isn't required. Her brothers, uncles, father, are required to support her unless she is married. This is why inheritance laws gives men more money, so they can support women.

If a Muslim woman wants to divorce, she may, but has the addl hurdle of seeking a divorce through the court. A man needs two witnesses. The addl requirement acts as a safeguard for women in a system entrenched with institutional discrimination toward women, as it is in place to ensure a woman is not making a decision that will be more harmful to her in the long run. Moreover, men are not permitted to take back anything they bestowed to the wife during the marriage. This is in stark contrast to divorce laws in the US, where spouses often fight for who gets what, and women are in financial hardship after divorce.

Overall, it looks to me that Islam does a fine job of providing true "equality" because it is a more just system.

You follow me?? [/quote]

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