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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] I am not Muslima but once again, she is correct here. Widows with no male relatives to support them become the ward of the state. I am not at all seeing any attitude in Muslima's answers. She has been quite honest in her answers. If she paints Islam in flowery terms its likely because its simply an expression of her devotion and love for it. Nothing wrong with that. She has not been misleading at all in her answers. I am a Muslim also and validate her answers. [/quote] The [b]point[/b] is, somebody had to tease this out of her before she admitted to it. All she offers initially is flowery stuff about how Islam offers "asylum" to prisoners, and that women get divorce, inheritance and other rights. Somebody else has to post the details, which aren't very flowery at all. Then she grudgingly admits it, and basically insults the person who provided the facts. That is indeed a form of deception.[/quote] What did Muslima grudgingly admit to? Islam does not promote equality as the west sees equality, it promotes justice. Inheritance laws were explained. In divorce, Islam does not purport to promote equality as you understand equality. If a woman is granted divorce but after divorce suffers financially and lacks adequate support, or is expected to work to support herself, Islam does not see justice in this, particularly if institutional discrimination toward women would prevent her from making the same as men for the same jobs. So in Islam, divorce may seem more easy for a husband but he is not permitted to retrieve assets he gave her during the marriage. This is very different from the divorce laws in the US where assets are divided between divorcing spouses. Divorce is generally harder financially on women than men. The additional requirement of going to a court to get a divorce is a protective measure for women to ensure every consideration is given to try to salvage the marriage. If, however, the wife fears cruelty, the divorce would be granted. This isn't inequitable to women. It is a more just system because it considers the hardship women often suffer after divorce. So again, equity is not the goal, justice is.[/quote]
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