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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] No one in this thread has posted anything about "entitlement". There is a difference between one who thinks he is is entitled to something and wanting equal and non-discriminatory/race-neutral treatment in college admissions. It is not true "almost everyone applying" has high test scores. Majority of applicants to top schools do not have high scores and are not really competitive applicants. It would be more like 10 to 20% of the applicant pool. No one has said high scores and hard work by themselves entitle anyone to admission to top schools. Again, the article indicates "quota" for Asians and that is wrong. No amount of shouting about "entitlement" no one discussed will change the fact that there seems to be a quota on Asians based on "race" which is wrong. Again, no one is arguing high test score is a sign of intelligence. It may be or it may not be. College Board says you cannot increase SAT scores by taking prep courses and prep courses say otherwise. The prep courses may help some but probably not significantly for most students so "test prep" does not and cannot explain away completely the accomplishments of those who do achieve very high scores. While talking about SAT prep, Asians tend to take cheap 40 students per class twice a week courses but guess who takes $500 to $700 per hour one on one SAT prep tutoring by Ph.D. graduates from top schools? Whites not Asians. So complain about those people since that kind of intensive one on one prep might lead to significant increase in scores. Sure many kids from all races get rejected. Again, no one is disputing that. However, Hispanic and AA applicants with lesser qualifications than Asians and whites get admitted to top schools based on race. I have actually seen this happen several times. We all know the competition is fierce but using race to boost certain group while capping other group is wrong regardless of your rants about non-existent "entitlement" no one has discussed. [/quote] Have you read ANYTHING in this thread besides your own posts? Have you absorbed ANYTHING? Every single point you make above has already been rebutted, definitively. The Harvard interviewer who said that 30% of applicants have near-perfect scores and grades (which comes out to about 10,000 applicants for the 2,300 slots), contrary to what you just posted above. The poster who explained why you are most certainly "entitled" if you think that high test scores give you some sort of right to get into Harvard (this may be a language issue for you). The poster who explained that affirmative action usually isn't letting in unqualified students, instead in a pool where everyone ie equally qualified, it gives a small boost (and hey, I can give you my own anecdata about minorities, some of them legacies, with fantastic grades and SATs who were rejected from Ivies, but we all know that the 10 kids we know between us is useless statistically). And it's just stupid of you to argue that the poor Asian kids in SAT classes with 40 other kids have no advantage over the low-income kids who can't afford any SAT classes. I'm sick of your casual racism and your sheer stupidity. [b]We[/b] can't talk to stupid. Good bye[/quote] Who is "We"?[/quote]
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