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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If they came to the May orientation, they could easily have been parent referred.  Regardless, it sounds like you are waaay too interested in who and why kids are admitted to AAP.  [/quote]

That's a funny accusation coming from someone who was just directing a lot of vitriol at the parents you speculate pushed their kids into AAP, without any basis as far as I can tell.   My assumption/understanding is that the kids were all screened by the same committee and accepted seems pretty reasonable to me.  But I suppose your judgment about a program you haven't actually been a part of and children who are not your own is probably superior.[/quote]

Not sure to whom you are directing [b]your [/b]vitriol, but you do realize there are multiple posters here with the same POV, right?[/quote]

It's hard to tell sometimes when people basically same the same thing over and over. Whether you are one person or several, it's always the same --- my GE child is just as smart, your child wouldn't be in if you hadn't pushed -- it's the same message from the same type of embittered GE parents, obsessing over the entrance requirements and constantly insinuating that most kids in AAP only got there because of pushy parents, not because educators placed them into the program.[/quote]

But can't you imagine how you would feel if the shoe was on the other foot?  What if it was your child who wasn't in AAP but was fully capable of doing the work, and all of his/her friends were in the program only because they happened to score just a few points higher on one test?  I think if AAP parents would imagine themselves in this situation for once, they wouldn't be so dismissive of the very valid concerns Gen Ed parents have.  [/quote]

I can imagine, and do respect valid concerns, and moreover happen to have a child who qualified and a child that didn't qualify.  But for one thing, I respect the fact that different kids need different programs.  No, there's no firm dividing line, and I don't believe it's just a matter of a few points higher on one test. If it were, 100% of the kids who score into the pool would be accepted (they aren't, it's a majority maybe 60-70%?) and 0% of the kids who missed by even one point would be accepted.  There are multiple criteria and many children who scored "a few points lower" on the CogAt but received very high ratings from their teachers make it in over kids who happened to score a few points higher and were in the pool, but did not have the grades and characteristics judged by the committee to need participation in the program.

Also, if you continue to feel strongly that your child was inappropriately placed, aren't there more constructive ways for you to handle that, rather than just calling for the program to be abolished?   I agree there are probably close similarities between kids on the margin, but that doesn't mean there aren't many children who need that program.  For that matter, you're pretty much saying YOUR child needs that program -- but then your solution is to dismantle it?!  Have you talked to your child's teacher(s) about why they may not think your child is able to handle the program?  I understand your frustration if you don't think your child is being adequately challenged -- but I think there are things you can do about that.  And though I'm sympathetic to those who believe their children are gifted in a certain area and should get enrichment, and I agree, I don't think the system should be dismantled to favor those kids, as I also know children who really are needing across the board enrichment in early elementary, and I believe it's our schools' job to provide it.[/quote]

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