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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Ok, so there's the snowflake person, and the person who has a kid in aap and gen ed.  And they make sure to follow, post, and regurgitate on every thread.  Or maybe more than once in the same thread.

Hi you two![/quote]

Catching up on this thread and have to chime in.  I'm wondering why you (PP) assume there are only one or two other people here who disagree with you?  You seem pretty insistent that you are right about who is posting here, but the reality is you have no idea who is who, as much as you pretend you do.  One could say there are only one or two people here with [b]your[/b] viewpoint who keep posting over and over.  Pretty arrogant.  From my experience, both on DCUM and in "real life," plenty of parents think AAP is overblown and needs to be reduced in size and scope.  And they have every right to post on this thread, as well as all others, for that matter.  Why don't you express your opinion, move along, and let others do the same.  [/quote]

This was already posted, but I'll repeat it. Discussion and discourse is fine. But [b]assuming because you have a kid in AAP and one in Gen Ed allows you to become an authority and say thst based on your observations other AAP kids in your childs class would be fine in Gen Ed is ridiculous.[/b]  Repeating if time and again becomes tiresome. [/quote]

[b]And what if it is the teachers who are saying it?  I suppose you'd have a beef with them too.  But the truth is plenty of teachers, both AAP and Gen Ed, say the same thing. As do several school board members, members of the Fairfax County Association and even, on occasion, AAP Coordinator Carol Horn.  Hearing this repeated by different posters is no more tiresome than a constant refrain of "my kid needs AAP because he/she's bored in Gen Ed."[/b]
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Amen to that.  [/quote]

AAP child could do fine with Gen Ed curriculum and possibly vice versa. But there is an advantage for an advanced child to be with advanced peers. Children feed off of what their peers are doing, making the peer group just as important as, if not more important than, the curriculum itself. AAP child could aim higher surrounded by like peers. Conversely, Gen Ed child at 80 percentile may be able to shine and get a truer sense of his/her capabilities without constantly being overshadowed by [b]the anomaly 99 percentile child[/b].[/quote]

The very fact that a 99% child is an anomaly is the reason many of us are saying AAP needs to comprise a much smaller % of FCPS kids in general.  These are the kids AAP was designed for; not the run-of-the-mill average/above-average children who make up most of the AAP population and who are indistinguishable from most Gen Ed kids.  Taking these kids out of Gen Ed depletes the GE population; and isn't their peer group just as important?  [/quote]

I think that the vast majority of AAP kids have scored in the 98th or 99th percentile of [b]nationally normed [/b]tests. All the AAP kids I personally know are in this range. Do you know of any different numbers? [b]There may seem to be a lot of these kids, but our area is skewed with a highly educated and high-achieving population. [/b]
To me it is good to have the differentiation to avoid Gen Ed teachers needing to teach to so many different levels. I think that splitting off even the highest-scoring 15 percentile (of FCPS scores, not national) helps everyone.

In the past on this board I had advocated for differentiation according to scores for Gen Ed classes but have been educated by other posters that tracking is now frowned upon because it can look like segregation: Unfortunately a higher percentage in the lower-scoring groups might be from certain minority groups, I was told. So I have accepted that the best compromise found so far is to split off the top scorers (saying something positive about this group and not labeling anyone as the lowest) and then keeping everyone else together. Also posters have said that the lowest-scoring kids don't do as well if they are grouped only with each other.[/quote]

One of the arguments about the increased AAP population that just drives me crazy is that because this area is "highly educated and high-achieving," it somehow "makes sense" that so many of our kids are qualified for AAP.  The only advantages a highly educated/achieving population has in this particular situation is knowledge of the appeals process, how to implement it, and how to pressure school administration if one's child does not get into AAP.  Not to mention, access to and knowledge of prepping classes, which should probably be listed first.  Other populations without these advantages probably have kids who would score just as well, they simply don't have all of the above support.  [/quote]

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