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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why are colleges in super high cost of living areas like NYU the same price as colleges in the middle of nowhere New England? Those dorm prices cannot be the same [/quote]

Williams runs on $97k, Amherst about the same.  These are as prestigious as Harvard and Yale, but at a lower cost than schools like NYU.[/quote]
Williams nor Amherst are anywhere near Harvard level, are you crazy? They’re good generalist teaching colleges, but Ivy level they are not. [/quote]

Both are better than any Ivy for undergraduate education. About 20 years ago Harvard actually set up a task force and produced a report in an attempt to improve their teaching to the levels of the top SLACs.[/quote] What are you basing this on? This is such a wrong assumption. My DC is at Yale and is having an absolutely amazing time. She has great relationships with professors (in one class the professor takes the students out to a restaurant every week, in another class the professor took students for a fully-funded 2 week trip to Europe last summer (we paid nada despite being a full pay family), her professors have made themselves available etc... This notion that a small college offers the best college experience is truly overrated many times. [/quote]

[b]Did you read before you mindlessly posted? Derek Bok set up a working group at Harvard because R1 teaching was inferior to teaching at top SLACs and he wanted to fix it.[/b] They made some suggestions that mostly haven’t been acted upon and today things are if anything worse than they were. The fact that your daughter is having a great experience in no way contradicts the position taken by Derek Bok that SLACs provide superior undergraduate education compared to R1s.

It makes complete sense. The incentives for success at each is the opposite of the other. Teaching at SLACs and research at R1s.[/quote]

DP, but Harvard grad. How old are you? Derek Bok is 96. He left Harvard in 2007. I was a student of his so googled what you claimed.  No, Derek Bok did not say that a liberal arts education is superior to Harvard. Rather, as a prominent scholar of higher education, he has written extensively about the shortcomings of undergraduate teaching at major research universities like Harvard. He wrote about this in 2009 AFTER he left Harvard University and it was his OWN opinion.  Back then! In 2009!!!!! How can you draw any conclusions from an opinion in 2009 and extrapolate from that to today’s crises s in higher ed?[/quote]

Nobody was extrapolating to today poor soul. Derek Bok did  are the comment in 2007 I believe and he specifically referred to Amherst. Harvard did put together a working group and issue a paper with a series of recommendations including focusing and rewarding based on teaching which were ignored. Spend $20 and use a decent AI platform to gather your base sources, it isn’t hard but you either cheaped out, can’t properly create prompts, or used a crappy platform because your answer is woefully inadequate. As the old saying goes “RTFM, I’m not going to do your work for you”.[/quote]

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