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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The biggest problem isn't students tuning into tech it's too many parents tuning out on their kid's education and expecting the schools to teach their kid everything, including manners. Too many parents are MIA. You deal with it all, teacher. I'm too busy doing me.[/quote]

My kid's K teacher wouldn't even read actual books to the class. Instead she would show animated YouTube videos about books. The massive screen in every classroom is a problem. My kid's behavior dramatically improved after we took away her iPad at home. Teachers should experiment with doing the same in their classrooms to the extent possible. Daily screen time in kindergarten is not necessary.[/quote]

It's the only way some of teachers believe they can offer differential learning.  It's hard to teach reaching when you kindergartners who don't know their letters and kindergartners reading chapter books, so they have the advanced readers read to Amira on their ipads and focus on the struggling readers.  I hate to say it's a good idea to create cohorts that young, but  unless you default to technology for some kids, how else can you teach a class of 20+ kids who are at very different places entering kindergarten depending on parental involvement and quality of preschool?   [/quote]

I call BS. Schools have never tracked kids in kindergarten. By their nature kindergarteners are always going to have different reading abilities. We used to be able to have kindergarten without screens and we still can.[/quote]

Why shouldn't advanced readers learn something in kindergarten?  Just because we failed them in the past, doesn't mean who shouldn't do better.  Why should they sit in a classroom and be bored because the teacher has to teach to the bottom? I favor testing at the beginning of the year and splitting classrooms by ability level, but everyone else around here seems to hate that idea. So if not that, then maybe [b]teachers can use technology to at least teach them something.[/b][/quote]

The problem is you believe:
- Technology in the classroom is a net good; and
- Technology at home destroys children's brains

That is psychotic[/quote]

I think technology in limited doses and on a closed system that is closely monitored is a net good.  I don't mind if my kid does 45 minutes of math on the ipad a day if it's a high quality program and it's in between an outdoor recess and something like an art or music class and they don't have access to anything on their ipad other than the math program. [/quote]

Tech in schools is not monitored, stop putting your head in the sand. Neither teachers nor students are monitored in how they use tech in schools. Kids are watching porn in schools on school-issued devices.[/quote]

My head is not in the sand. I'm not defending tech in schools in the status quo.  I believe the answer is [b]to use tech better in schools,[/b] not eliminate it. [/quote]

Well that's like saying teachers will provide math acceleration to one of three groups in a mixed class of 4th graders. It's not going to happen. It will always be abused because it is designed to be abused.[/quote]

That's cynical.  I'm sure we can design a closed system that only allows access to specific digital tools and blocks everything else. It just takes some work. [/quote]

How long do you want kids to be exposed to pornography in schools while somebody figures this out and how long will that last before kids find workarounds?[/quote]

Maybe you should join the Amish?

Obviously, no one wants their kids exposed to pornography.  No one on here is defending the status quo.  Everyone agrees that things need to change.

Most of us believe that there is a place for some technology in schools.  There is some very high quality ed tech (I'm not talking about things horrible products like Prodigy), and it's especially good for differential learning.  Programs that do frequent assessments and give tailored work based on student results are quite good if administered properly and safely.

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What do you mean "most of us"? I have met zero parents in our elementary school who want anywhere near the level of technology use there is now. Most would be happier with zero tech use in early elementary school.

It is simply not okay for kids to have access to distracting and potentially dangerous content on school issued devices. It sounds like you are labeling that perspective as "Amish" (whatever tf that means). That is psychotic.[/quote]

Literally no one wants their kids to have access to distracting and potentially dangerous content.  Kids should not have access to the web or distracting games on devices.  Kids shouldn't be on devices all day, either.  It doesn't mean you discount all technology, especially now that quality ed tech is AI powered and is very good at identifying weaknesses and teaching to them.   [/quote]

I've read about AI schools, they sound horrible. I won't support taxes to fund AI school.[/quote]

Public schools already used AI powered learning despite your lack of support and[b] they have been for a long time.[/b] What I think is funny is that schools when super expensive schools like Alpha School do their marketing, they fail to mention that much of their AI learning is on IXL, which is also in most public schools. [/quote]
Outcomes are getting worse,.not better with AI powered "learning"[/quote]

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