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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'll never understand how parents here believe that research is hard to get at Research universities. There's this mythos of LACs that is incessant.[/quote]

I was a grad student at a top R1. R1s are set up for grad students, not undergraduates. I know that you don’t like hearing it but we’re not lying to you. It’s not the same everywhere but in the lab I worked in nobody wanted undergraduates around. They just get in the way of work.[/quote]
There’s a pretty big difference between getting research at say Clemson and research at Yale. Most R1s talked about on dcum are not centered around grad students solely and many are easier to get research than LACs. I went to Pomona. My DS at Stanford has access to so much more research than any of the current crop of kids at Pomona. Just because there was a very real era where top R1s didn’t give a crap about undergrads and retention, it doesn’t mean it’s actually still true today. People who perpetuate this lie are I think mostly misleading and lying to posters here.[/quote]

PP: Interesting that you brought up Stanford. I did my work at UCB and research is available for undergrads but it isn’t any and the competition is huge. Research at UCB is for grad students by design, it is a public school with lots of grad students who need to be employed as TAs and RAs.

Very close friend at Stanford is openly proud that he hasn’t taught an undergrad in 20 years. There are no undergrads anywhere near his STEM lab. His view is that his labs job is to make breakthroughs which benefit Stanford and undergrads do not contribute to that goal.

I have my personal experience which I admit is a bit stale but I also have my friends lab as a current example and I’m not seeing any difference.[/quote]

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