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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It doesn’t prove Ivy League schools matter. You can argue it’s the high student caliber in those schools that led to the results.[/quote]

That has been studied, multiple times, comparing the group of students who had the choice and picked ivy+ MIT/Stanford/Duke /Chicago versus those who picked lower ranked schools. For the most competitive sectors of various fields, the ivy+ schools gave a small but statistically significant boost. [/quote]

Until you control for family income and education. In those cases it's pretty negligible except in cases of kids going from poverty to ivy--but there's not a huge control group because those kids will get full rides anywhere so there isn't a huge comparison group  at flagships.

For UMC kids,[b] not much difference.[/b]

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Oh yes there is. You have to have one at an ivy and one at a good public or good LAC to see it. It is night and day. [/quote]

You can’t seriously believe that Cornell, Brown and Dartmouth kids are smarter or more ambitious than kids from Williams, JHU and Swarthmore. [/quote]

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