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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][size=7] [/size][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]DH’s parents are MAGA. He said it’d be better if they were dead instead of losing them to the insanity. 
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I can't come to believe that certain old people can be "lost" to MAGA.   People are attracted or repulsed based on their pre-existing values.  My grandparents were kind and decent and, while they didn't live long enough to see MAGA, they would never had been taken by mocking disabled people or just plain gratuitous cruelty.  By contrast, my father bragged to us about bedding other women, so of course he is attracted to a man who grabs them by the p****y.  My mother had her 4 children on food stamps and still hates the poor, so of course she loves a billionaire who accepts a $400MM gift from an Arab state.  No one should be surprised that their family is MAGA.[/quote]

Exactly! My parents always had racist views and hate the poor.  No surprise there![/quote]

As a minority (Black), I've always been confused about people acting surprised by their parents' newfound MAGA allegiance and racist/homophobic/etc beliefs. Sincere question: were there really no signs until the last few years.  I can't imagine not being aware of my parents' uglier side for my entire life.  I'm not judging (I promise) but how can adult children  (or even teenagers)  not recognize this in their parents at an earlier stage? [/quote]

Their beliefs and opinions haven’t changed. There’s just a name to be aligned with now. People act as if MAGA is brainwashing their elders. It’s comical. Newsflash, your elders have always been this way. If your grandparents are over 75-80, they were/are racist and grandpa probably put hands on your grandma. They’re also who raised your parents.

MAGA is just a name for their like minded counterparts. They’ve always been who they are. [/quote]

Well, my parents are both over 75 and are not and never have been racist. Painting an entire generation as racist is absurd. Do you think all people your age have the same thoughts and values? Millions and millions of people?[/quote]

Your parents were born in 1951. They most likely went to still partially segregated elementary school and [b] used a different water fountain (among other things) than people of color until they were at least 13[/b]. Racial discrimination is racism. Plus, at that age, you mainly have your parents values and beliefs (1920s, 1930s,1940s America).

Forget it and pretend it never happened doesn't negate history. Your parents likely grew up and formed their own values and beliefs alongside the progressive movements of the 1960s and 1970s and no longer have racial biases, which is great. But to believe, as children, they went against the norm for white Americans is statistically improbable.

Also, comparing thoughts and values of people in 2026 vs the 1950s is what is really absurd. [/quote]

Not everyone grew up in the south.

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Ah ignorant and uneducated, huh?

New York schools are STILL some of the most segregated schools in the country. Ever heard of Freedom Day?

What happened with the Black Military personnel stationed in Bangor and Portland, Maine post WW2?

What was up with that Detroit riot in 1967?

I'm sure you're aware of Proposition 14 in 1964 California, right? Or is racism in your eyes just against African Americans?

No doubt you're also well versed in miscegenation laws in North Dakota in the 50's and 60's, correct?

But yeah, racism was only in the south!
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I was referring to the water fountains - which is why I bolded them....

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