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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why are we even having this discussion. UVA is a much better school. Period.[/quote]

Nope. Not anymore. [/quote]

46 in USNWR [/quote]

& T20 public. That’s pretty darn good. Take your negativity somewhere else. [/quote]

It isn’t negativity! It was a response to the statement that UVA is no longer a much better school. UVA is 26 and UGA is 46. Not insignificant. UGA is great, but not at the UVA level. [/quote]

PP here. Before you bash me as a delusional UVA lover, my kid is at a school ranked in the 60s—both UGA and UVA are significantly above it. 20 spots difference just puts you in a different level of school with different peer schools. [/quote]

[b]C[b]ompletely disagree. 20 spots is pretty insignificant when compared to thousands of colleges. [/quote][/b]
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The USNWR ranking being talked about is about only 133 undergrad business programs, so a 4 (UVA McIntire) to a 29 (UGA Terry) is significant, especially when it comes to recruiting from Wall Street.

Also, UVA is a top public at 4; UGA is 19

UVA is no.  26 in top national universities; UGA is 45.

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You guys are confusing USNWR rankings with other rankings. UVA is not even top 10 for undergraduate business there.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/business-overall?myCollege=business&_sort=myCollege&_sortDirection=asc

Michigan is number 4,  not UVA.  Neither UVA, or certainly UGA,  are top 25 schools either.   Nobody cares that both are top 20 “public” schools, especially for business. Business recruiting at the highest levels is very much prestige driven.

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FYI - Poet and Quants is the ranking most people use for undergrad business schools, not USNWR. That is what the PP was referring to. UVA is tied at #4 with Georgetown. [/quote]

Poets and quants makes regular data errors and has swings of 20 or 30 spots from year to year.

I would not obsess over any undergrad business ranking. People—and employers especially—know which business schools are in different tiers.[/quote]

Biggest issue is they don't rank a school at all if they don't receive enough survey responses...that is why schools like UCB, UT Austin, UMD and others don't show up anywhere in their ranking.[/quote]

Poets and Quants includes actual meaningful data like salary data, employer surveys, student surveys.   USNWR is nothing more than a relatively static ranking of deans ranking schools they know little about.  There is volatility in the Poets and Quants ranking due to data gaps as you mentioned, but you can look at prior year rankings or if needed USNWR to fill in the picture.[/quote]

Don't disagree...but they should consider still ranking all these schools and maybe color code them all the same and just indicate that they had to apply some of their own analysis to solve for lack of data.  [/quote]

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