Toggle navigation
Toggle navigation
Home
DCUM Forums
Nanny Forums
Events
About DCUM
Advertising
Search
Recent Topics
Hottest Topics
FAQs and Guidelines
Privacy Policy
Your current identity is: Anonymous
Login
Preview
Subject:
Forum Index
»
Soccer
Reply to ""Development" - A Scam"
Subject:
Emoticons
More smilies
Text Color:
Default
Dark Red
Red
Orange
Brown
Yellow
Green
Olive
Cyan
Blue
Dark Blue
Violet
White
Black
Font:
Very Small
Small
Normal
Big
Giant
Close Marks
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Wow, what a great Rage Bait post! Before you get the sheep all stirred up, can you define what 'development' means to you?[/quote] Not OP, but as a coach from Europe this is my take (in short): Training > Games (in early years) Technique > Tactics (before puberty) Intelligence > Physicality Long-term planning > Weekend results Access > Economics Coaching education > Marketing Growth and development in soccer are not about producing winning youth teams. They are about producing adaptable, intelligent, technically superior adults. If the system rewards short-term visibility, trophies, and physical dominance, it will produce good youth teams. If the system rewards patience, mastery, and intelligence, it will produce professionals. That is the difference.[/quote] To build off PP’s comment above, when people here talk about “growth and development” in soccer, most of the time they’re actually talking about winning. They’re talking about rankings, showcases, trophies, travel schedules, and who’s getting recruited. That’s not development. That’s competition. And those two things are not the same. Growth is about what the individual player becomes over time. Not this season. Not this tournament. Not by eighth grade. Real growth is measured years down the line. When I think about a ten-year-old, I’m not thinking about how many games his team won. I’m thinking about whether he’s comfortable on the ball, whether he can solve problems under pressure, whether he can use both feet, whether he understands space, and whether he’s brave enough to try things. In most serious European environments, the early years are obsessed with the ball. Small-sided games, tight spaces, constant repetition, lots of 1v1 situations. Kids rotate positions. They’re encouraged to dribble. They’re allowed to make mistakes. If an eleven-year-old loses the ball trying something creative, that’s part of the process. You can’t ask for creativity at twenty if you punished it at ten. In the U.S., too often I see the opposite. Kids are locked into positions early. Coaches spend large chunks of training organizing shape and structure. There’s constant sideline instruction. Parents care about standings. Clubs market trophies. The whole environment subtly tells the player that winning now matters more than improving long term. That shifts the focus away from mastery and toward results. Development, on a bigger level, is about the system around the player. It’s about whether the structure supports long-term progress or short-term visibility. In much of Europe, academies have a defined philosophy from the youngest age group all the way to the first team. There’s alignment. There’s patience. There’s an understanding that physical dominance at thirteen doesn’t predict professional success. In the U.S., the pay-to-play model complicates everything. When families are investing thousands of dollars a year, they understandably expect something in return. That “return” often becomes wins, exposure, and external validation. Clubs feel pressure to deliver visible success. But real development is slow and sometimes messy. It doesn’t always look impressive in the short term. When parents are customers, the environment can drift toward satisfaction instead of long-term formation. Another issue is the physical bias. In American youth soccer, the early maturing kids often dominate. They’re bigger, faster, stronger, and they win games. Naturally, they get selected. But many elite professionals were not physically dominant at thirteen. They were technically secure and intelligent. Systems that overvalue early physical advantage risk losing late bloomers who might have had higher ceilings. There’s also a difference in how competition is approached. In many American environments, kids play an enormous number of games every year, travel constantly, and spend more time competing than training. In many European systems, there’s more emphasis on training blocks, repetition, and deliberate practice. The game is the test, not the classroom. If most of the learning is supposed to happen during competition, you’re leaving too much to chance. And then there’s over-coaching. One of the most damaging habits I see is constant instruction from the sideline. When a coach dictates every decision, the player never learns to read the game independently. Football is about perception and decision-making under pressure. If a player grows up waiting for instructions, he won’t develop autonomy. Intelligence in the game comes from solving problems, not from being told the answers. Culturally, the difference is even deeper. In much of Europe, football is embedded in daily life. Kids play informally. They negotiate rules themselves. They experiment. They fail without consequence. In the U.S., everything is organized, scheduled, supervised, and monetized. Structure isn’t bad, but when there’s no room for organic play, something important gets lost. The hard truth is that winning at twelve doesn’t mean much. Being the best team in the state at fourteen doesn’t guarantee anything later. Youth trophies are a poor predictor of elite adult performance. What matters is technical quality, decision-making ability, adaptability, and resilience built over years. If we’re serious about growth and development, the guiding question has to shift. Instead of asking how to win this weekend, we should be asking what this player needs in order to be excellent at nineteen or twenty-two. That shift in mindset changes training design, selection criteria, competition structure, and even how we talk to kids after games. This isn’t anti-American. It’s just an honest assessment from someone who has seen both systems. The United States has an enormous talent pool and incredible athletic potential. But until the culture consistently values long-term player formation over short-term success, it will keep producing strong youth teams and fewer truly world-class players than it should. That’s the difference between competing and developing. Just my two cents, as you commonly say on this side of the pond. Hope this helps answer your question, OP![/quote] OP here. You didn’t help at all. You made my exact point of posting this in the first place. Mostly, it reads as though you wanted to go on a lengthy rant to try to prove your brilliance. I know “development” is not what it seems in the US and people are getting scammed. Thanks, though. [/quote] To the OP, what’s your reason for posting on this forum again? Kids have to work on their games outside of club? Brilliant! Thank you for sharing! Now, piss off. [/quote] I think he is a SYC shill upset that the top kids aren’t signing up in droves with the early tryout after they marketed their national MLS Next Championship. They are probably being asked about their development system and they are lashing out that it does not matter because their system is scrimmaging hard against the top players, winning youth trophies and reminiscing about the good old days at 18 years of age after they peaked when the “late bloomers” and “development junkies” are just getting started in D1 and pro environments.[/quote] Looks like you been waiting to take a shot at SYC and got tired of waiting [/quote] Looks like you have raised the white flag on clubs not mattering. I can only hope SYC evolves to actually develop the talent they recruit so it does not remain the wasteland of potential it currently is. If people only knew. Just remember, you started the thread. Myself and a few others just ended your crusade. I hope you bring another natty home to the DMV. Several of us from multiple DMV clubs will quietly chuckle from Mallorca this summer at your "success." Cheers mate.[/quote] Your comments must be inside joke for you and your singular friend You just wanted to let people know you're going to Spain on vacation?[/quote]
Options
Disable HTML in this message
Disable BB Code in this message
Disable smilies in this message
Review message
Search
Recent Topics
Hottest Topics