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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I still don’t get it—if their universities are better than ours, why are their students so desperate to get into U.S. colleges, even to the point of cheating? That just doesn’t add up. And ironically 2024-2025 we see surge in international students in US colleges even with Trump administration.[/quote] 1. Very difficult to get into top universities in China. 2. Cachet/prestige from studying abroad is a significant advantage in gaining employment in China. 3. Many want opportunity to emigrate to US and college is an initial step in that process. [/quote] Okay, but if their economy is supposedly doing better than the U.S., at least according to the media, I don’t get why they’d want to come here at all—given the current economic mess and high unemployment and underemployment for American NGs. Same with Indian students. Why?[/quote] Because, it is easy to excel in USA. The rest of the US population does not offer much of a challenge. Even mediocre students in China can become the top students here because the White students cannot compete with them. [/quote] This is so so true. As an engineering faculty at t100 school, I see how much American kids struggle with basic math they should have known since middle/high schools. For example, how complicated can y=mx+b be? When students in my sophomore-level class see a line segment connecting two points on a plane that happens to not intersect the y-axis, so many of them have trouble figuring out the m and b. It's beyond disappointing. International students (not too many these days) often seem dumbfounded when I have to work out simple calculations on the whiteboard so that everyone could follow.[/quote] DP. Sad commentary. On the state of US education. OTOH, I’ve seen Chinese students struggle mightily with humanities classes that require critical and/or creative thinking bc the PRC educational system doesn’t develop these skills. So it’s not as simple as “Chinese students better”. [/quote] Critical thinking and creative mind will be the future. AI will replace the human calculators.[/quote]
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