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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I still don’t get it—if their universities are better than ours, why are their students so desperate to get into U.S. colleges, even to the point of cheating? That just doesn’t add up.

And ironically 2024-2025 we see surge in international students in US colleges even with Trump administration.[/quote]

1. Very difficult to get into top universities in China.

2. Cachet/prestige from studying abroad is a significant advantage in gaining employment in China.

3. Many want opportunity to emigrate to US and college is an initial step in that process.

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Okay, but if their economy is supposedly doing better than the U.S., at least according to the media, I don’t get why they’d want to come here at all—given the current economic mess and high unemployment and underemployment for American NGs. Same with Indian students. Why?[/quote]

[b]Why do students come here from these two countries? For different reasons. [/b]

- [b]China [/b]-   Because, it is easy to excel in USA. The rest of the US population does not offer much of a challenge. Even mediocre students in China can become the top students here because the White students cannot compete with them. [b]India[/b] - It is the same for Indian students.  They can excel here.  Especially the STEM students are able to use the infrastructure in the labs to make innovations and discoveries which would not be possible in most universities in India.

-[b] China[/b] - The moneyed  class in China can easily buy land and businesses here so that the communist  leadership does not take away their wealth...as it has happened in history. [b]India[/b] -  The moneyed class buys land in India and villas in Dubai and UK.  USA does not have the allure because you do not get cheap household help.

- [b]China[/b] - Chinese govt makes the Chinese students steal research and technology from the USA universities and companies. Ideologically it is seen as a good thing.  [b]India [/b]-  Indians who come to USA have never stolen research or technology.  Infact, their work is stolen by unscrupulous professors.  Indians have deep-seated religious belief of Karma...also, the Indian Govt has no vision for the country and people. There is zero desire to improve the country by stealing technology. Indian govt will also sell out their own people who will do that.

- [b]India[/b] - Pollution and filth everywhere has made most of India unliveable.  Indians are leaving the country because you cannot breathe in major cities. Infrastructure is shit.  Unfortunately, India should not have become a democracy. We should have become a communist state like China. [/quote]

I think PP's points are spot on.  An average Chinese student can easily out performed an US student.  An average Chinese graduate here in the US will also have a much better life than an average Chinese graduate in China.  This is why they come here: to escape the intense competition in China and to have an easier life, free from political, societal norms and expectations.  [/quote]

The average private school Chinese or Indian student out performs the average US student (across the entire population).

The truly average Chinese or Indian student is barely literate.  That's why the PISA scores for China are only for private school kids in Beijing and Shanghai (PISA stopped including China because of this), while India scored basically dead last out of like 100 countries and stopped sitting for the test.

Now...China and India have tons of people so even if only 10% of kids can attend private schools, that still produces lots of kids.[/quote]

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