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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The school tells people not to go there if you want to go to top schools, [b]there is too much competition.[/b] If you really want 0ne of the top 25 schools, go to your base school. I have an 8th grader applying for TJ and we have discussed this with him. It will come up again if he is accepted at TJ.  [/quote]

+1 agree. Even after all the selection changes (including over years). The top 20% (~100 students) will be very competitive and they will be taking over the limited slots at the T20/T30's. If you are not in top 20% the chances of getting to top colleges are lower from TJ.[/quote]

The 50th percentile at TJ might get into UVA.  The same student will be top 5% or higher at their base school and will likely get into UVA[/quote]

My fav TJ-parent belief: my kid would have been top x% had kid gone to the base school. Never change, please!! ❤️[/quote]

And yet, it is true that for college admissions it is better to be top 20% at a base HS than bottom 50% at TJ. Some highly capable students stay at their base school for this reason.

The other reality is that many at TJ are really targeting Medical School, and are not targeting a STEM career. [/quote]

Yes…but TJ parents truly believe had their kids gone to the base HS they absolutely would have been at the top there. I think being bottom 50% at any HS is a recipe for failure for a highly rejective school.[/quote]

Because for the most part this is true. Exceptions sure but most TJ kids would rank higher at their base school than they do at TJ just given the nature of the magnet school and the harsh reality that there can only be half of any class in the top 50%. [/quote]

Thank you!! Again, don’t stop!!! The only way you are right is if the  nearly all the mid ranked TJ students are brilliant and the essentially all the base top students are dummies and/or only appear bright bc of grade inflation.

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Please. I don’t think you understand how math works. “ALL the TJ mid ranked kids are brilliant and ALL the base top kids are dummies”.

I’m not arguing every single kid at TJ would be top 1% at their base school. I’m saying it’s going to USUALLY be the case that any particular kid that got into TJ would be ranked higher at their base school than they are ranked at TJ. Not because all the kids at the base are dumb but because there is generally less competition for the top tier of base schools than there is for the same top % slice of TJ. Get it? [/quote]
Not really. No. The high stats kids at base schools are high stats…not bc TJ kids aren’t there to outshine them but bc they are already high performing. [/quote]

Maybe the top few kids could hang but most of them would drop on a 1::1 basis with how many kids went to TJ.[/quote]

? You're not even making any sense.

If a kid is 50% percentile at TJ then it's HIGHLY likely they would be a higher percentage at their base school because the base school has a mix of smart/motivated kids and other kids whereas TJ - as a magnet - is almost all (note not ALL) smart/motivated (it's just some kids there are smartER and MORE motivated than overs). That's the entire point. Full Stop.

You seem bizarrely fixated on defending your base school when no one's slamming it. [/quote]

I'm saying that the top few base kids will keep their spots but most kids would slide down the class rank if the TJ kids were still there.[/quote]

No, no, no. The top TJ kids? Sure? Beyond that? Absolutely not. [/quote]

Virtually all the TJ kids would take most of the top spots at their base school.  Even now with this abomination of a admissions process we have; many of the best kids go to TJ, especially now that the froshmore admits are such a large part of the TJ cohort.[/quote]

Let me rephrase that.  There's still a lot of smart kids left at bases schools, especially at places like Chantilly where a lot of students have decided that the commute just isn't worth it anymore.
Other schools like Woodson, Oakton, Langley and Mclean also probably have a lot of competitive kids left behind but the kids that left these schools would take up a lot of the top spots.  At most other schools, TJ probably took some of their best students.[/quote]

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