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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The White House is trying to throw the admiral under the bus. THIS is why you don't obey illegal orders.[/quote]

Yep, using his name over and over and over. It’s just going to further tank Hesgeth’s reputation within the military. Follow his illegal orders and get thrown under the bus at the first sign of trouble. [/quote]
The Admiral wanted that promotion. Trump made him an Admiral and then he was moved into this position in October when the other guy said, "deuces, I'm out. I am not following that order to shoot civilian boats out of the water". I mean what did this Admiral expect was going to happen - Trump would protect him. We will see. [/quote]

Here is the thing. There is a piece of paper with admiral Frank M. Bradley signature showing he fully understands killing civilians and or ship wreck survivors is against US law. He is done. Hegseth will get a pardon but is still liable for damages. Accepting a pardon means legally you are guilty. The admiral and everyone else in the chain of command is f’ed- prison time, lose of benefits, reduction of rank, etc. [/quote]

What you’re saying doesn’t really hold up because you’re jumping from a signed policy document straight to “this person is guilty” without showing any actual evidence that they broke the rule. Signing something that says you understand the law isn’t the same as proof you violated it. You’re also treating a pardon like it automatically means someone is legally guilty, which isn’t how that works. And saying everyone up the chain of command is “done” just because something happened is basically guilt by association, not a logical point. Predicting prison time, loss of benefits, or rank reductions as if they’re guaranteed skips over the entire legal process that would have to happen first.[/quote]

You have no clue. Everyone in the COC is legally responsible down to the person pulling the trigger. All orders are recorded. You can not target civilians and you can not target survivors of a ship wreck. The admiral will face the death penalty and will be lucky to get life in prison.

If you accept a pardon you are guilty under the law. You can be compelled to testify to your crimes and everyone involved. Look it up. Accepting a pardon does not relieve civil action against you. 
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