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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It is because violent repeat offenders are not prosecuted and if they are it us too light of a sentence before they are released from jail.

There needs to be mandatory incarceration of mentally ill who are convicted or crimes it found not mentally competent.

Reed’s criminal record includes nearly 50 prior arrests since 2017, with past convictions for arson, aggravated battery, and assault. [/quote]

Or...we could help people who are mentally ill before they commit violent crimes. Criminalizing mental illness is obviously not working. And neither is ignoring it. Also, why are there so many violent mentally ill people?

Figuring out how to punish and institutionalize people who commit crimes may make you feel better, but none of this actually prevents crime. I don't want to be someone's first victim either. [/quote]

I agree with not criminalizing mental illness but really do not care for the glib “help mentally ill people before they commit violent crimes.”

There’s an excellent chance this man was in some type of community mental health program for severe and chronic mental illness but the fact is the medications don’t always work and people often decline care even when it’s available (and actively promoted to them.)

These are complex issues and anyone in the field will tell you making statements like “just offer the mental health care so they don’t commit crimes” (or school shootings, or whatever) makes as much sense as saying “just offer primary care, so they dont die of cancer.” It’s just not how it works. [/quote]

What is your suggestion then?[/quote]

Step one is don’t act like psychiatrists have a magic wand to cure everyone with severe and devastating mental illness and the only issue is access. Since that’s not true having that be the primary talking point is obviously not a winning solution.

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I'm pretty sure what psychiatrists do isn't considered a "cure".  In most cases is just making people more obedient, often at the expense of other brain functions.  Not saying it isn't appropriate, just it's not "curing" people.

Is this really something that is appropriate for a political forum, who thinks they have something to gain by politicizing this?

Personally, I live in Rockville, we have extensive "mental health" services, and I am going to move because I don't want to pay taxes for these things or to be around the mentally ill and developmentally challenged that it attracts.  Why do all the low IQ people move to my neighborhood and bring down my schools MAP scores?[/quote]

Ma’am, this is a Wendy’s…

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NP. God you’re such a piece of shit. I’ve literally never voted for any Republican or libertarian or Trump aligned centrist Democrat, ever. But this is not a cute story. This woman is going to die or live a life wishing she were dead. It’s okay to talk about the realities of living in a society that has given up in all directions in terms of dealing with the small fraction of violent mentally ill people.   [/quote]

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