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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The shift needs to start in HS - there should be more of a curve. It’s ridiculous how a B has become shameful and an average C score a failure. Most A students are closer to average in ability and intellect … that’s the problem. [/quote] 100%%%%%%. That’s why colleges now inflate….they get grade inflated HS kids [/quote] +1 High schools inflate, which makes good students indistinguishable from great students. If everyone has straight As and all the SAT scores have gone up (because the scoring went up overall and because more and more people take prep courses, the only way for schools to distinguish among these perfect students is through activities--which we all know can be faked. High schools (public high schools especially) also allow kids to get away with being absolute CRAP writers because no one teaches writing in elementary or middle school and, seeing students with no foundation, high schools give up. Also, also, to protect from cheating and AI, many high school largely focus on work produced IN CLASS, which means that students are rarely asked to make a sustained effort outside of class. Homework has become so much less relevant than it used to be and this is TERRIBLE. Homework is how students practiced discipline and sustained effort. This story is not exclusive to Harvard, it is happening everywhere. It is good that Harvard is identifying it. [/quote] I agree AI is a problem, but policing for AI doesn’t prevent professors from assigning reading to their students and then testing them on the knowledge retained in class. I believe it was Columbia recently who also publicly discussed the inability of students to read the large volume of complex material that used to be commonplace for college students. There are Ivy League students who aren’t capable of reading novels and can only be spoon fed short excerpts of material. It’s because they’ve never done it before — the high schools have failed. [/quote] Returning to a problem more pressing and specific to the Ivies? What can be done about the increasing percentage of Asian admits? [/quote]
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