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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You are comparing apples to oranges. Denmark population is only about 6M total. (The size of South Carolina and smaller than TN). The population is 87% native danish. Leaves only 10-13%immigrants. Their tax system is extremely high and vary socialist society. No incentive to work hard when all goes to taxes. Hard pass!!![/quote]

What does immigration have to do with it?[/quote]

DP but there is a LOT of research indicating that homogenous societies are happier in general.  Progressive researchers often believe that expanding the social safety net of government can replace this effect such that different groups don't see themselves as competing or in conflict, but obviously that hasn't resolved the issue yet (they propose it will if government gets big enough).  I guess we shall see, if they succeed.  So far, data from major metropolitan areas which have more expansive safety nets doesn't look good but there are lots of factors that play into that.[/quote]

Very interesting.  Can you point me to some of the research that makes this conclusion, that diversity results in an unhappier society?  That seems really fascinating.[/quote]

I didn't say that diversity results in an unhappier society, I said they are correlated. Not sure the studies go that far.

The most famous one is Harvard professor Robert D. Putnam’s paper “E Pluribus Unum: Diversity and Community in the Twenty‐First Century” (2007).

He has since tried to explain it away in various ways, but the data is the data.  Putnam is most famous for his book Bowling Alone, about the importance of community and the shift in our society away from community support and how bad that is for the US.[/quote]

I am confused.  Are these two factors, diversity and happiness, correlated or is there a causal relationship that has been established?

Correlation seems fairly simple to explain: a society that needs to overwork cheap immigrant labor will be less happy for reasons that may not have anything to do with immigration.

What data is professor Putnam “explaining away?”[/quote]

Go read it.  It’s way too complicated to say there is one clear reason/cause for complex societal issues.  If it was that simple we would have solved the problem long ago.

Also, the data doesn’t have much to do with cheap immigrant labor so that conclusion is not correct.[/quote]

I don’t really understand why you are telling me to “go read it” when you are offering diversity as a reason not to pursue a social safety net.  Why?  What is your reasoning?  I want to read what YOU have to say.  I am interested in your reasoning.

I am particularly interested in this statement that you made: Progressive researchers often believe that expanding the social safety net of government can replace this effect such that different groups don't see themselves as competing or in conflict, but obviously that hasn't resolved the issue yet (they propose it will if government gets big enough).

I am also offering a potential explanation for the correlation, not saying that is the reason.  Our society has let in immigrants and increased our diversity for a core reason: cheap labor.  Perhaps the exploitation is behind a less cohesive society.[/quote]

I am not arguing for or against anything, I am telling you what social scientists are saying.

Here is a summary of the research you are asking about (i.e. the "statement that I made") -- https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-economy-happiness/201903/does-diversity-make-us-unhappy

I do not have an opinion on this issue because it isn't my field and I haven't looked at it extensively.  I do know that IF it is true that a larger social safety net is the answer, a large enough one to disrupt the correlation of diversity and happiness in the US today does not exist FACTUALLY.  Our society is splintered and unhappy.  The correlation between cohesion and happiness still exists here.

I think that your thesis is oversimplistic, in part because if cheap labor was the primary goal of immigration expansion, the party of capitalism would be for the immigration (to drive down costs), not the party of expanding social safety nets.  But I don't have a substitute theory I feel confident in at present.[/quote]

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