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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Main points:

The memo demands that schools ban the use of race or sex in hiring and admissions; 
freeze tuition for five years; 
cap international undergrad enrollment at 15%; 
[b]require that applicants take the SAT or a similar test;[/b]
quell grade inflation.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/trump-universities-compact-federal-funds-agreement-df158493?mod=hp_lead_pos1
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Starting this year?  
How are applicants preparing for this change?  Taking October SAT?[/quote]

Deadline to register for Oct is likely over. Junior class has time, seniors prob not unless going RD.[/quote]

Changes would probably apply to the next admissions cycle. I can't imagine schools going test-required and then requiring it like, that month.[/quote]

But don't you think the proportion of admitted students with test scores would be higher even for class of '30?  I think the upcoming cds data will show that it increased with class of '29 already.  TO is a trap for the unwary [/quote]

The kids who go TO mostly took the test, they just didn't score high enough. I don't think there's any "unwary."[/quote]

Correct. They have test scores to submit, they’re just not in range. Most took it multiple times and still are well below range. [/quote]

Of the schools listed, the only ones that are not already test required are UVA, Vanderbilt and Arizona.
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There's a huge advantage in submitting test scores for Arizona.  My daughter who had high stats was admitted literally in less than 24 hours just based on her numbers (with merit).  She got the email and thought it was just a confirmation that her application had been received.  
I think Arizona also still does auto admit and free tuition for in-state kids who are in the top percentage of their high schools -- my guess is that at least some of those kids don't bother with the SAT because why waste the money.  There are a ton of really smart in-state kids in Arizona who know they are staying in-state (going "away" to school is going from Tucson to Tempe or Flagstaff or vice versa) and whose parents don't have a ton of money to throw around at dumb tests that they don't need.  It's just an example of why it's stupid for the federal government to mandate these things -- some schools have really good reasons why they may not want to require everyone to take that test.

Some portions of this proposal are dangerous, others are just idiotic.

On the tuition freeze, what would make more sense is something like -- for kids that are admitted and enrolled, tuition increases cannot exceed CPI increases.  Even that would be a wild over-reach, but would at least make a little bit of sense.  [/quote]

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