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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]hopkins. student life has improved a lot with a ton of research opps.

columbia, penn also come to mind[/quote]

I thought Hopkins was a grind, Columbia kids are miserable and Penn is pre-professional and competitive?[/quote]

Hopkins is not at all what it used to be, and is notably easier for ED than any other T10 besides Chicago. They both have multiple ED rounds and generally admit "second tier" (just outside the top10% kids) students from private schools in ED, whereas plenty of top-everything Vals chose Penn, Dartmouth, Duke, Brown in ED.

Penn is no more competitive or preprofessional than any other T15/ivy, in fact less toxic than a couple of them, but is also not really an easier admit than HPYMS. All T10/ivy are "preprofessional"(lots of premeds, Econ/finance, prelaw). It has been like that since DH and I attended different ones then met at another for law school, '98. Even Chicago is preprofessional, no more "life of the mind" esoteric thinkers there than anywhere else.

Columbia from our private has slid to easier than other ivies for ED, though that is likely as it has many issues and a locked campus the past 2 years.[/quote]

How is JHU an easier admit in ED round?  ED acceptance is around 13% .  Comparable to any ivy.[/quote]

bc you are not competing against the top applicants across the country in the ED round.[/quote]

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