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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It’s always been sad in the US. We are overworked. You go to Europe and they have month long vacations for 4-6 weeks during the summer. [/quote] Europe's average GDP growth over the past decade is almost half of the US's. All that vacation has a cost. [/quote] Maybe GDP is not actually a very helpful measure? Europeans generally have less stuff and smaller houses, but they have more leisure time and don’t have to worry about bankruptcy because of a health event or obtaining an education. [/quote] Trump is forcing them to pay for their defense and equalize tariffs They're screwed[/quote] All these people who are trying to exit to Europe are going to miss out on the biggest wealth gain in American history, based on an illusion of what Europe is like. Americans are so propagandized that they don't realize that Europeans are dramatically poorer. And when they get a serious illness, they are more likely to die because their healthcare is worse.[/quote] Only if you have health insurance in the US. Millions are going to be losing their insurance very soon and the level of care available to the uninsured is far below European standards.[/quote] Free insurance is available to our poor, so this is a much smaller problem in reality than as a talking point. In reality, we provide medical care to everyone. And we have much better medical care for many reasons, but a huge one is that we have more imaging than they do. If you're French and find a lump in your breast, you'll wait twice as long for an MRI vs a US person in the same predicament. If getting maximum vacation is fine for you and you're willing to scale down your possessions and spend half of your income, you can just work less and live in the US. It's intellectually dishonest to compare the US and Europe on these issues without pointing out that they have incomes like people in Arkansas and Healthcare wait times that would shock Americans. Or that they are 10% more likely to die when diagnosed with cancer. These are very relevant facts when comparing quality of life. I would be able to move to Europe and get citizenship very easily and choose not to for quality of life reasons. [/quote] That's funny. I have a friend in NC. She'd had breast cancer, surgery, remission (it was stage 2 that time). 7 years later she has breast cancer again, stage 4. But her insurance grumbled about the chest x-ray she had (symptom was a nagging cough), refused MRI for 2 months, then refused a PET scan altogether (had something to do with identifying the cancer type as I recall). Luckily she got 9into a study and has been doing very, very well for a few years now. But . . . polls in at least some red states show that MAGA is (so far) pretty happy over Trump's handling of tariffs. Basically they like politics been handled like pro wrestling I guess. [/quote] That's terrible that your friend went through that. I'm a breast cancer survivor as well, and have looked closely into breast cancer survival rates in Europe vs the US, in part, so I can make choices on where to reside in retirement. While your friend had a very unfortunate experience, survival rate in Europe is lower (varies between 10-30% lower depending on the location in Europe).[/quote]
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