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[quote=Anonymous][size=18] [/size][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't think so for the schools that have historically been test optional for large swaths (athletes, donors, legacy) or others. Schools like the below:

Duke
Northwestern
UChicago
Columbia
UCLA
Cal
[b]Vanderbilt[/b]
Notre Dame
Michigan
[b]WashU[/b]
USC

Look at all the SLACs...there is no scrutiny there AND they are almost all uber TO (Amherst, Pomona, Bowdoin, Midd, Davidson, Barnard etc)
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Vandy and WashU always love high score applicants albeit still TO.
Columbia just settled with Trump.  Unless they want to lose their funding again.

Agree the chilling effect would be most pronounced on test required schools.
Cornell
Brown
Dartmouth
Penn
Georgetown
Johns Hopkins[/quote]

So what?

It's hard to get accepted to those schools anyways. Tests won't significantly change that dynamic.[/quote]

If a high score raises your odds of admission from 2% to 4%, it doubles your odds of admission. [/quote]

Based on [b]a 2024 analysis[/b] of over 600,000 applications to ivy+ shows a 10-15% chance of admission to one of the schools with a 1500 SAT; 15-25% chance of admissions with a 1540 SAT; and 25-35% with a 1590 SAT score.  If your SAT score was 1430, your chance of admission was about 5%  This did not take into consideration any other factor about the student.[/quote]

Source?[/quote]

Nature magazine article.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-55119-0[/quote]

Did you guys look at this?

[i]We estimate that Asian American applicants had 28% lower odds of ultimately attending an Ivy-11 school than white applicants with similar academic and extracurricular qualifications. The gap was particularly pronounced for students of South Asian descent (49% lower odds).[/i]

WTH! 49% lower?  [/quote]

Bc they all apply for stem or engineering. They haven’t learned what the other Asians have already.[/quote]

This. 
Indians don’t know how to play the game.[/quote]

Generally agree, but I saw my South Asian friends' kid get rejected from Brown despite being at a selective private school in Boston and declaring an intention (supported by ECs) to study Gender Studies in college.[/quote]

Brown is tricky. They are definitely looking for fit. If you don’t nail the fit in the essays and especially the video it’s a problem. It is not like all of the others. Where did that kid end up?[/quote]

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