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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I used to vote both parties, swinging to republicans for the old definition of fiscally conservative, swinging to the democrats whenever abortion was in jeopardy.

However, after seeing all these republicans cowering in fear of Trump threaten to primary them, and just letting Trump stomp all over and rip up the constitution and our democracy, I will never, ever, EVER vote for a Republican again, local or national.

I'm appalled at reports of women bleeding out in hospital parking lots during a miscarriage, waiting to get close enough to death to warrant a D&C without the Dr getting charged with murder.

I'm frustrated from all the immigrants (legal and illegal) being rounded up and then given no due process. They don't care if a few mistakes are made (probably a few citizens cooped up right now), or if they were never charged with a crime. Off to El Salvador or Alligator Alcatraz and good luck having anyone even know you've been disappeared, or being allowed to talk to legal counsel. I heard in Alligator Alcatraz, since immigration authorities didn't put them there, they can't go to Immigration judges. And FL, which put them there hasn't charged them with a crime, so there is no state judge who can preside. They are stuck in limbo!

I canvassed door to door for Kamala, attend local Democrat planning sessions, support women's rights, gay marriage and legal immigration.

But, I am tired of too much woke stuff.

I hate hearing NPR talk about "pregnant people and chest feeding". Also using LatinX when 90+ percent of actual Latinos are against it.

I support trans adults being able to work and rent and live peacefully and take any medication or surgery they wish. But I don't agree with giving children puberty blockers or hormones. I don't support men in women's sports and locker rooms. I've read many gay adults (and straight adults who were sissy or tomboys) say if this had been around 30 years ago, they would have jumped at the chance to switch genders. But they are glad they just grew up to be a gay man who loves having his body intact, or a women whose glad she kept her breasts and ability to have children.

I think the pronoun stuff will hardly be around in 10 years. When I was still working, I could tell they were getting close to enforcing it in email signatures or intros at meetings. I opposed it for "woke" reasons, but also because it forces trans people who aren't out to make a difficult choice.

We have a house in town that has a huge banner saying "Immigrants welcome here!". I'm pretty sure they haven't offered any immigrants to stay in their guest room.

So yes, I wouldn't want to constantly be around people who support the woke stuff that drives me batty.

But I want to be part of the woke stuff like abortion rights, vaccinations, scientists, due process and not firing feds who were doing useful work.[/quote]

I've never voted for a republican and still agree with almost everything here. More than anything, I'm tired of being lectured at by people who have not actually arrived at their political opinions through thoughtful examination. There are a lot of people (especially online, this is why I quit Twitter and avoid political discussions online for the most part) who just adopt progressive positions without putting any thought into it, and then yell at anyone who disagrees. This is a particularly frustrating situation because there's no room for discussion. If you disagree, you must be MAGA. If you agree but with caveats, you must be MAGA. And so on. It's more important to people like this to be right than to find workable policy solutions, have respectful debate over unsettled questions, or even agree to disagree on certain issues when we agree on almost everything else.

I also get frustrated when I see progressives taking bait that Trump and right wing media lay for them. Like the Sydney Sweeney "controversy" was fully invented by right wing media and fanned by Trump, and a bunch of progressives dove right into into it. And what was the result? People stopped talking about Trump and Epstein. Good job? Again, this is the result of thoughtless, knee jerk progressivism. If you actually care about progressive policy-making, you would never get engaged in a discussion online about whether Sydney Sweeney's new ad for American Eagle has Nazi undertones because that's obviously a stupid and pointless conversation.[/quote]

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