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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The Maine LACs are all on the rise - Colby, Bates, Bowdoin, Midd.

Also, Hamilton is becoming the new Amherst.[/quote]
Midd is in Vermont and none of those schools are “rising” any different than years prior, other than maybe Colby.

Hamilton is completely different than Amherst and wants its future to be in tech and AI. [/quote]

Also, can any of the NESCACs really be described as “on the rise?” Are any of them lacking in respect? Top to bottom, they are the standard on which all other SLACs are judged/compared. Obviously not saying those are the “best” schools, but people take shots at Amherst, Williams, Wes, Hamilton, Mid, Colby, etc. on this board for a reason. I don’t see many Bowdoin people, for example, puffing their chests about how they’re better than W&L. 
-NESCAC alum, parent & spouse[/quote]
I wouldn't say the NESCAC are the standard at all... WASP are. I can see an argument to include Wellesley or Harvey Mudd, but Wesleyan? Hardly even discussed on this forum, same with Hamilton. Middlebury is often talked about with the context of it falling from a top 4 lac and Colby...meh. [/quote]

Obviously the Mudd booster chiming in which is pretty ironic.

[b]Mudd is a very new school which was literally started as a school to train, (yes train) entry level engineers for the defense industry. It was basically a trade school. It has evolved into a unique and special place but it is very niche like Olin on the East Coast. [/b]

Wesleyan on the other hand has a long history and is one of the 'little three' which is considered to be one of the top 10 sports rivalries in college sports.

There is no argument about including Wellesley, they have always been part of the top group. There are 9 SLACS with average test scores at 1500+ 4 are NESCAC (Amherst, Bowdoin, Middlebury, and Williams), , 3 are 5C (CMC, Mudd, and Pomona), and the other 2 are Wellesley and Swat. That is your group and you should probably add Carleton, Hamilton, and Haverford to it as well.

WASP has as much meaning or usefulness as HYPSM which means it has nothing of value. The NESCAC along with a few other schools has long been the standard and that isn't changing in your lifetime.

When Midd is talked about in terms of having fallen people point out:

That the rankings drops were driven by methodology changes at USNWR which didn't align well to Midds SES profile and by reporting changes which caused a major drop (only on paper) in how some spending per student numbers are reported.
Negative comments seem to be by a singular person on this thread who is obsessed bout them (not in a positive way) who periodically tries to create controversy yet inevitably gets batted around like a cat toy.

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This is such a myopic view, I’m surprised it’s being agreed with. Mudd is as much a trade school as any lac with a stem major is a trade school. It has a mission to give scientists and researchers a humanities-based framework to engage with science, and it’s doing it a heck of a lot better than most of our nations engineering programs.

This idea that engineering or stem is divorced from the humanities is the exact opposite attitude of Harvey mudd and reflects poor critical thinking skills.[/quote]

A very well-thought-out and detailed response. Thank you! YES! Mudd's philosophy is why it is admired in today's day and age. [/quote]

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