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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The argument is not and should not be that "Americans won't do these jobs" but that we have inadequate citizen applicants to get the job done when the job is important and needed from generating food to nursing care.[/quote]

From inception, the U.S. was built on free and then underpaid labor. Indentured servants > slaves > sharecroppers/Jim Crow blacks > Irish/Italian/Polish/Chinese immigrants > illegal immigrants from Latin America. Our food and several manufacturing sectors have ALWAYS paid below market-rate wages. [/quote]

OP here. Yes, I read The Jungle. I thought we were supposed to be progressing past that. A lot of people on this thread are fine with those jobs continuing to suck as long as it’s not them who has to do them.[/quote]

One side supports OSHA and safe working conditions, healthcare, education and a minimum wage. The other side is the GOP. Not the same.[/quote]

To a point.

Dems support all those things in theory, but they don’t want to pay for them.

FTR, I’m a Dem.

Just look at how we’ve abandoned mom and pop shops to support Amazon, Walmart, and target. It’s because people prefer to pay less.

Ditto for using uber instead of (uninionized) taxis. Uber is cheaper.

And what about Airbnb? Hilton actually offers their workers good wages and benefits that mirror what is required in socialized countries in the EU, let many people opt for the cheaper Airbnbs despite the fact they are destroying the housing market…particularly for los wage workers and the elderly.

Most people only “care” in theory. Once it hits their own wallet, they sing a different tune. [/quote]

Wrong! Walmart cannibalized small rural communities that manufactured one product - like etch-a-sketch. Walmart demanded that if a company wanted to be on its shelf, it had to be at a lower price point. So the company was forced to lay off all but the executives and ship production to China. Those former etch-a-sketch factory worker shopped at Walmart because they had little $$ and then they inadvertently did the same to the Mr. Potato head town.

Never shopped at Walmart after hearing about its unfair and predatory practices. They also are the company most responsible for employees on public assistance because they indeed work them to avoid paying benefits.

Yes, if you care about American workers, don’t shop there. But let’s also not forget that GWB also told us after 9/11 it was patriotic to shop, which in part fueled over-consumption in the US. [/quote]

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