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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Are the seedings out today?[/quote]

Some parents are just obsessed and monitor all the kids, which is creepy and take the fun out of swimming. [/quote]

I think a lot of parents actually want to move down divisions where it will be more fun.[/quote]

It's not much more fun in the lower divisions.  There are two types of parents, those who have club swimmers that are pushed to win (so that the team wins A meets), and those whose kids swim only during the summer and don't care about winning meets.  This creates a bit of a tension and can tear a lower division team apart.[/quote]

Not true.  Over the years, we've been in B through F and and I would say the best in terms of being in the fun but still competitive sweetspot is D and E.  Once you are in the top 3 divisions, it's mostly going to be year round swimmers swimming A meets.

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I would argue that C is fun too. Our team’s division (which has varied over the years) really hasn’t impacted what % of non-club kids make A meets. We have some club kids who are very strong but barely make A meets because their cohort just happens to be extremely strong, and other age groups where many non-club kids are making A meets.[/quote]

We are in C this year and I disagree. We were in lower divisions in the past and it was a lot more fun. This year is toxic with the competition and there are very few non-club kids making A meets other than in age groups where we don't have enough swimmers to fill lanes. [/quote]

[b]Lower divisions can be fun at B meets.  At A meets, there is still pressure to win, and the few club kids who swim are often expected to rack up most of the points.  That isn't very much fun for them.[/b][/quote]

I am so glad that our team does not operate like this. We are a lower division team that has moved up and down over the years and the constant is community and fun no matter the division. The club swimmers dominate the A meets but they all seem to have a lot of fun and the coaches don't put negative pressure on them to carry us at A meets. There is a lot of camraderie between the A and B swimmers and many of the club kids go to the B meets to cheer even when they are not swimming. We have some strong swimmers who are not club kids who regularly A meets and club kids often swim different events in B meets to get practice and have fun. It doesn't have to be toxic and competitive. [/quote]

It's a result of poor coaching for the non-club swimmers during summer swim practice. Still getting DQs at 11-12, and even where this isn't happening, the kids aren't really pushing themselves. You can see them deflate in the pool when passed but a club swimmers, giving up before the race is even over. Their times barely improve, and often get worse. This is what is demoralizing to many club swimmers during summer swim. Teammates don't seem to care enough to put in their best effort, even if they don't swim year round. [/quote]

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