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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]A programmer with an AI tool is akin to a carpenter working with power tools - they are more efficient and can produce value at a higher rate, translating into higher productivity. Typically, higher productivity encourages more investment, and more creation. In other words, programmers will remain, but they will accomplish far more. [/quote] I disagree. I have been a programmer for 30 years, taught at two different t20 CS depts……now consulting with one of the big 3…. I’m 100% certain that once we reach AGI there wont be a need for programmers. It is that simple. Young CS graduates will NOT have jobs for them 5 yrs from now. They wont get the experience they need to be able to oversee an AGI programmer. 95% of CS jobs will be eliminated in less than 7 years. You car take picture of this post….then lets discuss this again in 5 years so I can tell you “I told you so”…..[/quote] You type like grandpa's first time on a computer. I don't think you know anything about CS at all, but let me ask, when will we have AGI? You think what we have now is close? Lol.[/quote] You can think whatever you want. You dont know me, but if you did, you would think otherwise. I dont know when we will get to AGI, but it is closer today than yesterday. Anywhere from 3 to 5 years is my opinion. I dont care what anybody here says. I’m closer to this than 99.999999% of the people on this site. I just happen to have a Junior that is trying to decide to what to study in College. This is why I frequent these boards… I can see what is coming and it is not pretty. We can all put our heads in the sand and it wont change or stop the train. AGI will change everything. At that point, you better be in a senior position with plenty of experience. We will only need 5% of today’s CS workforce. But if you want to convince your kid to study CS, go ahead.[/quote] Yes, please share how you're advising your junior. What majors/careers do you think are worthwhile to pursue given the above?[/quote] Sure. These are the programs we are discussing at our house with my son. 1st 8 are in the US, last 4 in the UK. 1. Stanford - Symbolic Systems (CS + Philosophy + Linguistics + Psychology) 2. MIT - BS in Urban Science & Planning with Computer Science 3. Harvard - Joint Concentration: Social Studies + Computer Science 4. Yale - Ethics, Politics & Economics (EP&E) + Cognitive Science 5. Michigan - Double Major: Information Science + Public Policy 6. Carnegie Mellon - Major: Ethics & Technology - Minor: Human-Computer Interaction 7. Princeton University - Double Major: Digital Humanities + Public Policy 8. Arizona State - BS in Innovation in Society 9. University of Edinburgh - MA Interdisciplinary Futures with focus in Future Governance (Edinburgh Futures Institute) 10. Cambridge - Human, Social, Political Sciences (HSPS) + AI Ethics Track 11. Oxford - Philosophy, Politics & Economics (PPE) + AI Governance Thesis 12. University of St Andrews - International Relations with Philosophy OR Psychology/Neuroscience with Sustainable Development or Management [/quote] How about electrical engineering? Would that be a marketable degree?[/quote] Of course! All engineering degrees are marketable presuming it is accredited. The top schools with Engineering are the most likely to provide leadership skills and have a lot of writing requirements making them very versatile hires who can adapt to new technology and most importantly think , learn, and innovate. There is a reason 30% of current fortune 500 CEOs have an engineering degree and that figure will increase. Engineering is marketable in many if not all sectors. [/quote] Will there be entry level jobs in five years? [/quote] There will be in engineering. Just the raw brain power and discipline needed to get through that degree is valuable. But yeah, as AI gets going, it's going to be tough out there in a few years. My personal opinion is that civilization needs to get it together and regulate AI quickly. Because the consequences of unconstrained AI are going to be enormous for the well-being of most people. [/quote] Tech bros are lobbying Trump hard to not regulate AI.[/quote]
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