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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]I am not Kirk's fan but he does have some good points about not going to college and racking up student loans debt.[/b]  Several of my family members attended Ivies as full-pay, majored in social studies and graduated with 300K of student loans.  They are social workers and are on a income payment plan.

College is not for everyone.  [/quote]

That's fine; but there are many other sources that can support that point. 
And nobody has to go to an Ivy League and go $300K into debt to get a good college education. Community college, other public universities - even part-time while working and earning money and experience.

No, everyone doesn't need a 4-year degree to be financially successful and independent in life. Still, there's a better approach to the "all or none" argument about college. Why does it have to be college or no college? How about emphasizing the fuller range of options, including SOME college - like a 2-year degree even if your career choice out of high school doesn't require even that? We used to value education for the sake of education in this country. Now it's just about $. You DO understand why the Republicans are happy to de-emphasize education and especially college education? No, it's not because of "indoctrination." It's because college-educated individuals are more aware, better understand nuance, think more critically, think more beyond themselves and their own little bubble and therefore are more knowledgeable VOTERS. They don't WANT educated voters. The original purpose of public education in this country was to develop and EDUCATED ELECTORATE. That is precisely what the Republican party does not want.[/quote]

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