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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Maybe $3500 iPhones are good - it will drive competition and [b]make people think before upgrading to a new phone every year which is a disaster for the environment. We love our cheap stuff but has anyone really sat down and thought about whether it actually is good or bad in the long run?[/b][/quote]

Tariffs or no, the bolded has been an issue for me for a long time. Being environmentally conscious means nothing if we are dumping our tech devices so frequently. We buy the best products we can afford at the time and hold on to them for a long time. My car is old (20+ years), but has 120k miles, good mileage for a gas powered vehicle (32 mpg on highway, 27mpg locally), and still passes emissions and safety inspections with flying colors. Debatable whether recycling it and other cars every five years is better than holding onto this vehicle. Similar on electronic devices.

Not happy about tariffs but if it gets people to be more environmentally responsible, they will have some positive effect. [/quote]

Driving  20 year old car is not good for the environment.[/quote]

A 20 year old car was built in 2005. It has essentially the same pollution controls and engine efficiency as a car made yesterday. You have zero clue WTH you’re babbling about. 
 
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Yeah, I don't see how swapping my Impreza for Tesla is going to move the needle on the environment, especially considering I have either bike commuted or WFH for the past ten years.  Let's ding on all those small car drivers that don't own EVs, because they are so hurting the environment.  Never mind those SUV driving liberal soccer moms, you can go sit out on the 495 and watch them speed by.  Get outta' my way, it's game time.[/quote]

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