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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Atheism is a faith-based belief system, so atheistic topics belong in the religion forum.[/quote] +1[/quote] How is atheism - the lack of a belief in a god or gods - faith based? A non-response will prove that it is not.[/quote] Atheists believe in freedom, at least all the ones I know do. By freedom, I mean we are responsible for our actions. But atheists are by default materialists, that is, matter is all there is and that there is no immaterial spirit. Every fact about us must be determined by physical laws. If every belief and decision we make is the result of physical laws rather than rational agency, then we have no free will, and it is not sensible to hold us accountable for our actions. However, atheists (most of them) say we [i]are[/i] responsible for our actions, and act as if they have the ability to weigh choices and make decisions on their own. This seems to me like belief that requires faith in the non-physical.[/quote] You last paragraph is rejected as a flawed premise. Atheism, a position on whether there is sufficient evidence for god, does not say anything about "responsibility for our actions", or anything else other than the god proposition. Therefore, no.[/quote] Actually, atheists, if they are consistent with their materialist worldview, would say we are [b]not[/b] responsible for our actions. But I don’t know any who live that way. Also, the atheist position doesn’t care about evidence. It is a non belief in god regardless of evidence. An agnostic would care more about evidence.[/quote] No, you are not getting this at all. Don’t make stuff up. Atheism is a position on ONE THING and ONE THING ONLY: Whether or not they believe in a god or gods. Atheists think all kinds of other stuff and differ on all other kinds of positions.[/quote]
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