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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]In my sophomore year, I withdrew from orgo 2 weeks in and made arrangements to take it at summer school. I couldn’t manage the bandwidth it took to think through the reactions plus 4 other courses. Once I was in the summer class and thinking about nothing but orgo (and my mindless 2nd shift job), it finally made sense and came together.

Finding a summer orgo class that you can transfer may be the answer. I was not pre-med  but my class was 98% pre-meds who knew the secret. [/quote]

Another option, is to find a OC class at a community college that the university will accept.  My brother did that years ago and it was the only way he would have made it through pharmacy school.
I have a PhD in Chem and hated Organic.   [/quote]

I’m the PP you’re replying to and I was at an Ivy. We were allowed to transfer in 2 outside classes so I went home to a local small, private university with a strong nursing program to take orgo. I chose it based on affordable cost and reputation of the course and professor. Kids from my HS passed down the info about the class.

Start asking around- kids who are seniors in college or in med school who went to your kid’s high school will have local recommendations. [/quote]Even if your college accepts the transfer, how do you know the medical school you apply to will view it as the same rigor?[/quote]

Orgo is the same rigor whenever you go. This isn’t high school honors history vs. regular history. Score well on your MCATs, get a great GPA and get As in all your pre-reqs and no one will question rigor.

Now if you had a lot of Cs in pre-reqs at your Ivy and an A in a pre-req at a non-Ivy, then yeah, it would raise red flags[/quote]
Having taught and taken orgo at different universities, this isn't true.  The basics are the same, but amount of content covered and the difficulty of tests can vary a lot.

Just as examples, my experience was that William and Mary covered a ton of material, including graduate level content, and was very comprehensive.  U of Arizona had a easy curriculum and tests.  UCLA was super over-subscribed so the tests were multiple choice and focused on minutiae to weed out pre-meds and didn't really test understanding.  Berkeley had difficult exams that focused on problem solving and reaction mechanisms.[/quote]

+1 
Orgo is VERY differently tested across schools. William and Mary is known for being closer to how rigorous schools like Hopkins run the course, vs other state schools [/quote]
this goes to the well-deserved perception (denied by DCUMoms) that W&M makes everything harder.[/quote]

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