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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I hope not. It’s an excellent program and we have been extremely pleased with the rigor. [/quote]

The only rigor on display at most IB schools in FCPS is rigor mortis. That’s a main reason why they are so keen to redistrict. Easier than dealing with the root causes. [/quote]
It’s fine to like AP better but you don’t need to insult IB just because you are not a fan.  Just like people who like IB don’t need to diss AP.  Is it really that hard not to be a jerk?[/quote]

I’ve taught both AP and IB English. I prefer IB, and that’s where I placed my own child.

I’ve been listening to AP vs IB arguments for over a decade. I’ve noticed that most people against IB don’t have strong knowledge of the program.

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We don't really need a program that results in 82.5% to 97.4% of the seniors at high schools within FCPS [b]not[/b] getting a IB diploma, which is the original goal of IB at the high school level.

The IBO only started encouraging kids to take courses a la carte to generate more revenue when it became clear relatively few American students were interested in doing the full IB diploma "programme."[/quote]

IB English produces writers. My own child wasn’t a diploma candidate, but her experience in IB courses turned her into a remarkably strong communicator.

There’s value in the classes, not just the program. [/quote]

AP English classes require lots and lots of writing.  So do AP History classes.  IB does not have a monopoly on writing.[/quote]

I prefer the way IB teaches writing, and I appreciate that the assessments are almost exclusively writing-based. I also appreciate the oral component in the IB program.

If you’re happy with AP, then great. I’m happy with IB. [/quote]

If you are at an IB school, how do you even know how AP teaches writing?[/quote]

I don’t know about the original person you’re responding to but I have a senior IB diploma candidate and a sophomore kid at a private with AP. The assessments in IB HL courses are tougher and more focused on critical thinking  they are often also graded by teachers outside of that school system so it’s more objective. Also my mom taught AP history honors history, and created courses with an English teacher teaching partner. My father was an ed policy wonk. I know good curriculum vs plug and play. AP plus more plug and play. IB is broader and deeper. It’s been outstanding and every college kid I speak to says after the IB DP, college is a breeze. [/quote]

Don't you think the operative statement here is "IB Diploma Candidate?"  And, your other child is a sophomore.
I can only speak for my own children--both had IB diploma roommates in college.  And, both said they wished they had AP as the AP kids got more credit than they did.    DD sailed through college, too.

Relatively few kids are pursuing the diploma.  It is an extremely expensive program.  It is enabling Pupil Placement for reasons other than desired.  It is less flexible than AP.  And, more families and students prefer AP.
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