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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Anybody looking at these numbers for more than 10 min with a critical thinking hat on should know these are just the number of SS accounts currently active. But Elon misrepresents this as the number of people in each age bracket who are currently receiving payments, so everyone in the comments and even Faux News is OMG there's massive fraud!

However, OIG already did a report on this several years ago in which [b]they concluded the cost associated with marking the dead people as dead was cost prohibitive[/b] as only a few age 100+ were actually receiving any benefits. The people in question either died decades ago and were not reported, or had been issued multiple SS numbers and only one was marked as deceased.

https://oig.ssa.gov/assets/uploads/a-06-21-51022.pdf[/quote]Wait, what? The cost of correcting a DATA TABLE is 'cost prohibitive'? What kind of Rube Goldberg machine are they running over there!

I'm beginning to understand the other thing Musk tweeted:

"The logic flow diagram for the Social Security system looks INSANE. No one person actually knows how it works. The payment files that move between Social Security and Treasury have significant inconsistencies that are not reconciled. It’s wild," Musk declared in a post on X.
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He is lying and gaslighting. When will you people understand that? He isn't a brilliant tactitian, but rather a rich guy who started on third based and got money from nefarious sources to co-opt existing businesses and ideas. He had little to do with innnovation at PayPal and had less than zero to do with Spacex or Tesla.[/quote]Then why is it 'cost prohibitive' to correct data that lists 150+ yo people? Seems like something someone should have fixed a long time ago, or maybe NO ONE EVER NOTICED.[/quote]

Per the OIG report, only 2% of people over age 100 are getting pay outs. Some people do live past 100 so they're likely legitimate. If you've ever seen the news, it can be a nightmare if you're accidentally declared dead so there's probably some aversion to marking all of these people dead. The rest of the people are not receiving benefits anyway, and it would cost money to mark them dead in the system, therefore it is cost prohibitive. [/quote]

it said only 2% of people had earnings history or were getting payments. So the percentage getting payments is actually much lower than this because most of this 2% is actually illegal immigrants using a dead persons social security number and paying social security taxes. A much smaller portion is people over 100 getting benefits. Most of these people are paying taxes, but do not actually get any benefit. [/quote]

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