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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]In the real world, Rochester is far from being a peer to schools like USC, NYU, or BU which are highly competitive.

Parents and students don't consider Rochester as their peer, hence it ends up with 36% acceptance rate and 21% yield.
Almost 4 out of 10 people can walk in, and out those only 2 out of 10 are willing to attend.

Peerness is determined by the actual parents and students and we can easily see the result.

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Actually peerless is best determined by the schools themselves and who they compare themselves too. All of the schools that you mentioned are good schools and academic peers. Differences in admissions rates can be entirely explained by location.[/quote]

NOPE. It's not the magazines or schools determine peerness. 
It's the paying customers(parents and students) for the products and services who determine that.
If Rochester was a peer, it would be as competitive as the other schools, but not at all.

There are hundreds of schools in the Boston, NYC, and LA area. Location helps, but only handful of them are competitive like USC, NYU, BU.

You can make excuse so much. Rocheser just couldn't overcome whatever disadvantage it has and it failed to become a peer school to those competitive schools.

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Nope, it is the fact that the schools that you mentioned consider Rochester a peer in the comparison that the schools themselves provide to the govt. that let's one know who actual peers are. You might want to try working with actual facts and data from the schools themselves.[/quote]

'provide to the govt'??
What do you mean? 
Let me see.

Nonetheless, what parents and students consider and act matters.
Evaluations from parents and studetsn are based on actual facts, data, references, etc. 
At the end, we get the actual result which shows parents and students don't consider URochester a peer.
Other schools are much competitive with way higher yield.

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It has been explained to you that this isn't how it works.  Just like NEU getting 100K+ applicants does not "make it a better school". It just means it's a good school in Boston, one of the best college towns around, and they have done a good job of marketing and they have no supplemental essays.  But they are not ranked T40 because they are not a T40 school, despite being "very popular".

Similarly, the fact UR is in rochester (not Boston or NY or Chicago or another big exciting city) does not take away from their quality of education.  Or the fact they are not D1 big sports.  But it does explain why they might not have as high of yield or as many people applying.

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WTF are you talking about?? It's not just 100K+ apps.
It the combination of admissions competitiveness, yield rate, retention rate, graduation rate, cohort quality, outcome, etc.  
Northeastern beats Rochester in every single metrics.
Demand is high because parents and students know the facts, and they act accordingly.

Location is obviously a plus, but there are 100+ schools in the Boston area and most of them are mediocre. 
'What if URochester was in Boston' is a useless dumb fantasy.  Wake the F up.[/quote]

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