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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]“Kids should be evaluated holistically and much more comprehensively than the current process allows, but the evaluation absolutely should be relative to the offerings of the kid's zoned school and their abilities relative to the other kids at their school. Picking the top 1% or 1.5% at each school is appropriate, as long as the process is comprehensive enough to get the correct top kids.”

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Absolutely. The by MS process needs adjusted so it can find the best kids at that specific school. Right now that is not necessarily the case - fix that and that corrects most of the issue with the new approach. [/quote]

I’m as pro-reform as you can get and I agree with the above as well. It’s the one concern that I have with the new process, that it’s not identifying the right kids from the non-feeder schools. Deeper analysis is needed that is not available to us, but it does need to be done.[/quote]

Agree. Adding a look at SOLs seems like a fair way of evaluating applicants. 
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They will never do that.  
In 2023-2024, the number of students getting advanced pass in geometry SOL is 904.
46 of them were low income
472 of them were asian (31 of them were low income)
22 were black (3 of them were low income)
37 were hispanic (5 of them were low income)
402 were white (7 of them were low income)

So using SOL advance pass as a filter would mostly just increase the number of white students who are not low income.  [/quote]

How about algebra? 
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What about it?

Here is the website, you can fiddle around with it but algebra in 8th grade is already pretty mid.

https://p1pe.doe.virginia.gov/apex_captcha/home.do?apexTypeId=306[/quote]

You only presented partial data. You can’t really draw any conclusions when you only look at a subset of the kids.

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I presented all the geometry advanced pass data.
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ETA.  I presented all the 8th grade geometry advanced pass data.
That's already 904 kids for ~306 spots (only about 306 of those spots go to FCPS students, the rest go to Loudon, Arlington, PW, Falls Church)
Add the 8th grade algebra advanced pass and you are adding over 1400 more kids
That's 2300 kids for 306 spots.

There's only about 14k 8th graders in FCPS.

For the class of 2025 (the only year for which I have seen info), 117 out of 306 (almost 40%) students were not receiving AAP level 4 coursework
The admission rate for AAP kids was about 18%, for non-AAP kids about 13%
The percentage of freshmen that took the minimum math requirement in 8th grade (algebra) went from 5% to 31%
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And? AAP shouldn't be a requirement. 
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And there is more in the PP than AAP.

SOL for algebra is not very useful.[/quote]

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