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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]The outcome is still going to be different because of the level of teaching and the students being taught to. [b]Teachers have to teach to the lowest denominator[/b] and the lowest denominator is a lot higher at a low FARMS rate school. So this only works at your school if your child is in the AAP class, but if you compare Gen Ed to Gen Ed, there is a markable difference, even for the white and asian kids. That said, an average white or asian kid is probably more likely to get into AAP at your school than at a high SES school, so maybe that makes up the difference.[/quote]

This is not true.  It is true that the common denominator may be lower, but that does not mean that is where the teacher "teaches."

Do you really think that elementary teachers teach to the "whole class" all day?  That they do not provide leveled instruction at all?

I was a first grade teacher in a school with a very wide span of abilities.  Except for the morning discussion and some other activities, there was plenty of leveled teaching.  I had at least three reading groups (and as many as five), as an example.  With math, everyone was taught together, but then additional work was given to kids.
Social studies and science were generally group taught.

And, FWIW, while it is true that the FARMS is an indicator, there are always exceptions. I also taught in a Title I school for several years where almost all the kids were very poor.  Even there, I taught some kids who were highly gifted--yes, even poor people can have gifted children.
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Of course they don't teach to the whole class. They teach to the middle and then work with the kids behind in small groups. The kids ahead either get busy work or ignored [/quote]

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