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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]UCLA and Berkeley, as purveyors of undergraduate education, are as similar as any two universities in the T50. You all are splitting hairs at an atomic level, and I hope that deep down you can acknowledge the navel-gazing silliness of this particular exercise. [/quote]

As someone with children at Stanford and UCLA, all three of whom passed on Berkeley, I can share firsthand that the cross admissions data that everyone is well aware of (79/21 in favor of Stanford over Cal, and 64/36 in favor of UCLA over Cal)  isn’t news to those of us who have been paying close attention for the past few decades.

Berkeley isn’t what it once was - people need to accept the reality of that fact.[/quote]
I don't think this "reality check" is based in reality. Berkeley dominates graduate school rankings and continues to excel as the best public university for research and notable alumni. UCLA has a great quality of life though.[/quote]

Really? How are you measuring “best public university for research”? Asking for friends at Michigan, UCLA, and Washington, among others.

Also, notable alumni … ? Q factors or what?[/quote]
People here are incredibly dense. Berkeley has some of the most important faculty in any field you can name-Physics, English, Government, Sociology. Here's their H-indeces: [url]https://research.com/university/university-of-california-berkeley[/url].  The school has dedicated parking spots for the Nobel laureates-22 to faculty 59 to researchers and alum. I really don't see how anyone's blinders are down so far they wouldn't be able to see that Berkeley is a leader in public institutions.[/quote]
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